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Rickdaddy4188
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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If you are going to go off on a tirade Rick at least spell his name right.


stating facts isnt a tirade. its a factual statement


my phone autocorrects donte to dante because i have a close friend named dante. thanks for catching that though


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LosTigres25
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Damn, Rick every post you make is solid.

It seems to anyone with a clue that Jackson's tackling is improving and he had 2 big hits the other night. Maybe the hit of the night. And he was already a good tackler for a CB coming into this season.

But, once the clueless and ignorant get started they arent stopping and saying "Yeah, youre probably right".

Love that Regions, commercial.
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Rickdaddy4188
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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worst of all it is tackling which is a pretty big thing!







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Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Damn, Rick every post you make is solid. 


thats just how the rant is. one person makes a post without any evidence to back it up and it just gets reposted over and over.

kind of like people saying our oline last year wasnt good when in fact we had the most oline make an all sec team and a Rimington award finalist and led the country in yards before contact.






DJackson has some flaws(as does every cb) but he has been a very solid cb for us.
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memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Tolliver is better. Just because coaches have Donte starting doesn't mean he is better. By that rationale, Greedy was not as good as either KT or Donte going into the season as they both were listed as starters ahead of him. How did that play out?


So you are saying the coaches are all wrong and are intentionally putting less talent on the field?

Yes KT was the scheduled started but got suspended. KT gave Greedy a chance and he's shined to the point that he's not coming off the field.

And KT has not shown enough to send DJ to the bench. No matter how much you wish it so.


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Rickdaddy4188
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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LosTigres25


i find myself agreeing with you,penrod ,and 120goon about 95% of the time on here.

ive yet to see a post of yours i dont agree with at all.
you should post more.


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boxcar willie
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Neither tolliver or jackson are elite cb's as amatter of fact. What weneed is another good cb to start opposite williams. Maybe time to look at fulton or someone else. Tolliver and jackson are just to mediocre


boxcar willie
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kenner
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Or kirkland or vincent. Let vincent and williams start with jackson coming in as nickle back. Or even kirkland at nickle with vincent and williams at cb. Might be time to get the talent on the feild before we get to deepinto the season


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memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Neither tolliver or jackson are elite cb's as amatter of fact. What weneed is another good cb to start opposite williams. Maybe time to look at fulton or someone else. Tolliver and jackson are just to mediocre


Christ, the impossible standards of some LSU fans.

We have a good CB opposite Greedy. His name is Donte Jackson.

For all his flaws, he's a 2 year starter at DBU, will play in the NFL and is an upper third SEC corner. He'd start for all but maybe 3 or 4 teams in the SEC at worst.

Hell even KT would start for half or more SEC teams.

To act like we are garbage outside of Greedy is just stupid.

Hell this whole thread highlights how spoiled we are when it comes to DB play. We are arguing over 2 guys who would both start for 95% of teams across the country.


SwampBandit
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Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Hell this whole thread highlights how spoiled we are when it comes to DB play. We are arguing over 2 guys who would both start for 95% of teams across the country


I can live with that statement, and Rick the stats you show are a good way to end this conversation, i for one will admit when i am wrong and i must be wrong about the tackling, it just seems like i see him whiff on a large amount of tackles but the stats prove other wise... I just hope when he matches up with a big receiver like Ridley he can handle it...Like is said before we will see when the time gets here....Other than that touche Rick touche


boxcar willie
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kenner
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Touche nothing. We didnt brcome dbu because of mediocre db play. Wiliams and vincent. And delpit look more like your prototypical dbu type db's


memphis tiger
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Touche nothing. We didnt brcome dbu because of mediocre db play. Wiliams and vincent. And delpit look more like your prototypical dbu type db's


Yes let's just start a secondary entirely of freshmen for the SEC opener.

Brilliant
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Bert Macklin FBI
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
You've stated 0 facts in this entire thread.

It's hilarious that you think you need to see the 22 man wide film to have an opinion on a CB.

So let me ask you then, how do you know that he's good? You've never seen the 22 man wide film so using your logic, you can't state for a FACT as you put it that he's a good CB either.

Dumb logic for a dumb poster
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Elleshoe
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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are anywhere near the level of Tre White, mo Claiborne, the honey badger, or Patrick Peterson.


Oh... guys who haven't finished their third year aren't as good as some first round picks and a Heisman finalist? Dynamite analysis, dipshit


Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Another poster with a reading deficiency I see.

Couldn't have picked a better dummy to team up with Rick Daddy on this issue. All you need is airfernando and we would have the three stooges in this thread.

The whole point of that comparison is that Memphis said he smothers WRs and he doesn't. Those NFL guys smothered WRs while they were here.

The point wasn't to say anyone who isn't Patrick Peterson sucks, it was to say that only great CBs smother receivers (such as those greats) Donte doesn't.

Also why do y'all continue to gloss over all the complimentary parts of my posts? It's almost like y'all are looking for things to be angry about....
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memphis tiger
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Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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The whole point of that comparison is that Memphis said he smothers WRs and he doesn't.


I NEVER said that. Please link to where I said that or acknowledge that you are a liar.


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Blanky6715
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
Never said that, just pointing out that he posted a gif that basically proved you are an idiot and don't know what you are talking about.


Bert Macklin FBI
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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Donte is smothering wide receivers. He is an outstanding corner.


^^^ you said it. It's on page 1.


Elleshoe
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re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
you're white trash and football ignorant. Stop posting


Rickdaddy4188
LSU Fan
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
31323 posts

re: Jackson vs Tolliver for oppo side of Williams?
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've stated 0 facts in this entire thread. 



except the facts of Jackson's 2016 season where he was 4th on the team in solo tackles,2nd in passed defended,1st in int. yards, and tied for 1st in ints.

aside from those facts sure.

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It's hilarious that you think you need to see the 22 man wide film to have an opinion on a CB. 


i said for technique. you can have an opinion all you want but unless you have the all 22 film its a very narrow opinion.

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So let me ask you then, how do you know that he's good? 


because he produces(stats) and the very best dc in cfb and onw of the best secondary coaches in cfb keep playing him.


but let me guess youre ,never seen all 22 film,opinion outweighs the production and the opinions of Dave Aranda and Corey Raymond.
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Dumb logic for a dumb poster 


says the dumbass talking about cb technique from a tv broadcast or even worse inside the stadium. youve exposed yourself as a bullshiteter.


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