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re: Its time: is Daniels better than burrow?

Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:13 am to
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:13 am to
I’m not saying JD is better than him right now but I think it’s funny to see that the ones downplaying JD right now in the lsu fanbase happen to be most of the crowd that melted their face off that JD came back to lsu his senior year

They literally can’t believe they were that wrong.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:13 am to
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Commanders have a better defense.



Just FWIW, PFF has the Commanders 4th worst and the Bengals 11th worst.
Posted by BeeFense5
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:15 am to
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Just FWIW, PFF has the Commanders 4th worst and the Bengals 11th worst.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:18 am to
Pass Blocking:
Cinci: 4th worst
WAS: 11th worst

Run Blocking:
Cinci: 4th worst
Was: 6th worst

Special Teams:
Cinci: 1st (Best)
WAS: 15th
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:22 am to
Burrow took a trash Bengals team to the Superbowl. Are we going to act as if that never occurred?

Is Washington in the superbowl after winning a divisional round game?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:24 am to
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Burrow took a trash Bengals team to the Superbowl. Are we going to act as if that never occurred?


That didn't occur because that team was not trash.

And that team was STACKED compared to this WAS team. Better secondary, DL, DBs, RBs, WRs. Probably a better OL. I'd have to look at LBs
Posted by tigahlovah
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:27 am to
I don't know if any other QB could've put up the numbers Burrow did behind that line in Cincinnati. Maybe Mahomes.

Now Joe does have as good of a skill position at his disposal as anybody, but he makes unbelievable plays just by feeling the rush.

I watch every Eagles game (fan since 1977), and every Bengals and Redskins game that doesn't conflict with Philly.

Imagine Joe playing QB for the Eagles. They may go undefeated with him.

I'm team Joe AND team Jayden. I think they're both gonna win SBs. And probably more than one apiece.
Posted by tigahlovah
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:28 am to
He does have inferior weapons to Joe. But he has a much better line. Cincinnati's is THE WORST.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:30 am to
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I don't know if any other QB could've put up the numbers Burrow did behind that line in Cincinnati.


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But he has a much better line. Cincinnati's is THE WORST.




Both JD and Burrow have bad defenses and OLs this year.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:33 am to
Nope
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:39 am to
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Please elaborate. The once fired dan quinn, who was fired by the falcons after a 2nd straight losing season or kilff, who was just fired by the cardinals? The same kliff that had a losing record at texas tech?
The Dan Quinn who led the lowly Falcons to the Super Bowl and turned around the Cowboys horrible defense, and the Kliff Kingsbury who is one of the best dual threat QB play callers ever.

Getting fired once as an NFL HC does not make one a bad coach.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 8:41 am
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:41 am to
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Well, the argument for Burrow on here (ignoring the lies/fantasy) is based on a similarly small sample size (his 1 SB run)
No, it's based on five years in the league.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 8:42 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:42 am to
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Kliff Kimgsbury who is one of the best dual threat QB play callers ever.



While Zac Taylor has issues as a HC (primarily the slow starts), his offensive resume in the NFL blows KK's away.

And KK had his own issues as HC, so it's probably best not to compare those resumes, either.

KK was nothing special in the NFL and had a very archaic system until his time away when he changed things up this year. In AZ he had his WRs line up in the same spot every time
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:43 am to
You're discounting Taylor's epicly stupid play calling in key situations.

What are their current jobs?

Kliff as OC >>>>> Taylor as HC
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 8:45 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:44 am to
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No, it's based on five years in the league.


That's not what others are using.

But, if you want to, then Burrow being injury prone comes into focus.

The best ability is availability.
Posted by LSUnation78
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:44 am to
His ability to avoid sacks makes him deadly at any level. And is allowing him a bit more success in the nfl for now because of how often burrow is laying on the ground. To be fair, that is also in part to having a better oline.

Burrow’s lore at lsu cannot be surpassed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:45 am to
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What are their current jobs?

Kliff as OC >>>>> Taylor as HC


Taylor runs the offense in Cinci and is the playcaller. He's both. The OC role in Cinci is gameplanning and the title is more ceremonial.
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:46 am to
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That's not what others are using.

But, if you want to, then Burrow being injury prone comes into focus.

The best ability is availability.
How do you know what others are using?

Burrow has been available far more often than not, and when he hasn't, it's been because his OL is complete trash.

Do you really think Daniels is better than Burrow, or are you just playing devil's advocate?

I get everyone gets excited about the flavor of the day, but come on.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 8:49 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:47 am to
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How do you know what others are using?

I can read what is posted ITT.

quote:

it's been because his OL is complete trash.

JD's OL was complete trash this year.
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 8:49 am to
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JD's OL was complete trash this year.
And will likely get him injured at some point.
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