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re: It’s more than a head coach in hoops, look at Dale Brown.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:48 pm to Stevo
Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:48 pm to Stevo
Ok thanks. You dont know shite. The ones who have been associated with the basketball program for 30 years , are the problem. WW had success, but he isn't the answer. Its a terrible look for any university to hire someone that was fired for level 1 violations, and didn't even cooperate, then bring him back. Dont see Louisville on their knees begging for Pitino to retun right? Or Indiana calling back Sampson? Its the same knuckleheads who believed Saban was returning to Lsu. Please. The entire mens program needs a complete do over, I'll admit that, but they aren't likely getting rid of MM. The issue is scouting by the assistant coaches. Cant blame MM and NIL. Point the finger at the clowns cutting checks for the players. They have a say so too. Never forget that.
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Posted on 3/13/26 at 12:55 pm to ChestRockwell
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ts a terrible look for any university to hire someone that was fired for level 1 violations, and didn't even cooperate, then bring him back.
It would not be a terrible look for ticket sales and for fan interest here. I'm much more concerned with that than the outside perception of the types of hypocrites like Dick and Forde who forced the double standard that villainized WW and spared the K's, Self's, Cal's, Roy's and others.
I would also note that Bruce Pearl did not cooperate with Auburn during a federal corruption probe in 2017 and coached there another 9 years, WW almost certainly chose that path based on advise from Pearl.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 1:02 pm to Tiger Ugly
Auburn has always been a shady basketball program. As far as ticket sales, winning cures everything. Like i have said a million times. MM isnt playing , missing shots, turning the ball over. Sure, he had alot to do with bringing them in. But more of the blame has to be to those who convinced him, and the money folks. Its the same song and dance with every coach, no matter what sport. QN throws an INT, he needs to be fired, pitcher gives up a GS, fire the coach, etc. Hire better assistants, and start there.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 1:18 pm to ChestRockwell
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Auburn has always been a shady basketball program.
No doubt and Pearl was always even shadier - funny thing at the end of all this he never really got less shady but totally rehabbed his image nationally and actually made Auburn basketball legit and even interesting and popular at Auburn, something it had never been. To think WW would not do the same here would be pure rationalizing, he almost certainly would.
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s far as ticket sales, winning cures everything
And I would argue WW gives you about as good a chance of doing that here as anyone you might be able to get to come here.
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MM isnt playing , missing shots, turning the ball over. Sure, he had alot to do with bringing them in. But more of the blame has to be to those who convinced him, and the money folks.
convinced him of what? MM - good guy - had zero interest in helping to raise funds and promote. We just can't have a guy here that just wants to coach and not do the rest. May can do that other places for basketball, not here.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 3:22 pm to PlaySomeHonk
You forgot about Dwayne Scales. I believe he was “the astronaut “?
Posted on 3/13/26 at 3:33 pm to ChestRockwell
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He couldn't get past the 32 with CJ, Stanley and Shaq. Awful coach
What was our record vs Kentucky, prior to Dale Brown?
How many times did we make the Tourney, prior to Dale Brown?
Posted on 3/13/26 at 3:41 pm to PlaySomeHonk
Great post! Any good coach, as I learned from Bear Bryant, has assistants that are just as good and even better than the head coach.
By the way I was a good friend of Dale and both Rick and Gary way back when the Destrehan teams that I coached battled the Redemptorist teams back in the 70's!
By the way I was a good friend of Dale and both Rick and Gary way back when the Destrehan teams that I coached battled the Redemptorist teams back in the 70's!
Posted on 3/13/26 at 3:45 pm to Gonadballbarian
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and Griggs etc.
Shawn was not an active member of the 89-90 team and too many people lump him in. We would have gotten into the Sweet 16 with him because he would have shut down Dennis Scott in the second half of the GA Tech round of 32 game. And then we’d have absolutely plowed over Michigan State who had Steve Smith.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 3:55 pm to Gus007
Overrated coach. Could win with no talent, terrible coaching, with talent. See 1981 F4. No way that team should've laid an egg in Philly. He stayed at lsu about 5 years too late. Should've been immediately fired after blowing that lead to UK on Mardi Gras.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 4:05 pm to Bob the Terrible
Pretty sure Chris Jackson had the flu that game. Only had 13 points. And they had Kenny Anderson and Brian Oliver. And we started out with a monster lead.
Griggs or not and CJ sick or not. We should have won the ship with that talent. But that was a three headed monster we ran into while CJ was sick so shite happens I guess.. but you should never lose with the twin pyramids and Chris Jackson surrounded with a good supporting cast
Griggs or not and CJ sick or not. We should have won the ship with that talent. But that was a three headed monster we ran into while CJ was sick so shite happens I guess.. but you should never lose with the twin pyramids and Chris Jackson surrounded with a good supporting cast
This post was edited on 3/13/26 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 3/13/26 at 4:06 pm to Gonadballbarian
Some real idiots here.... how many LSU basketball coaches have made the final 4 multiple times. I'll wait.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:16 pm to misey94
I didn’t say a good coach has to be rah rah. He needs to be magnetic in at least some ways though, a leader who coaches and players want to follow. He needs to be comfortable in both a board room, and on the court and everywhere in between. And I did imply he doesn’t have to be a X-O whiz…he just needs damn good technical assistants.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:17 pm to Bob the Terrible
Ron was a very good recruiter but he definitely was not the technical type coach the others were.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:21 pm to TexasTiger08
I know…..you got me but I’ve never said Joe Burrows lol
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:30 pm to BastropRam13
Scales left in 80, the year before. From Carter High in Dallas. He was fun to watch.
Posted on 3/13/26 at 7:36 pm to ramchallenge
Those were the days…I played for Gary in AAU, then Rick and Gary at Redemptorist in late 70’s. Rick’s youngest son is producing a documentary on him. The trailer is on YouTube and I may make a post with the link.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:15 am to PlaySomeHonk
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Ron was a very good recruiter but he definitely was not the technical type coach the others were.
Agreed, Ron showed that in the one head coaching gig he got.
Dale went through a stretch where he would hire the high school coach of a player he really wanted to help him get that player. He did it with at least 4 players here that I can recall but I think Ron was the first - he got him in order to help get Rudy Macklin here - Ron was Rudy's coach.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:51 am to Tiger Ugly
Why do people always include Roberts with Shaq and Jackson?
He was nowhere near their league.
He was nowhere near their league.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:58 am to Bob the Terrible
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No mention of Ron Abernanthy?
There's no probably no Rudy Macklin at LSU without Ron Abernathy, who was Macklin's high school coach in Louisville.
One of Dale's best recruiting tricks was hiring the high school coach of a standout player. Abernathy, Rick Huckaby (Howard Carter), Jim Childers (Stanley Roberts), just to name a few.
This post was edited on 3/14/26 at 9:01 am
Posted on 3/14/26 at 9:07 am to PlaySomeHonk
All I know for sure, is me arguing with people an internet message board will have zero effect on anything LSU does with the basketball program.
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