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re: It will be great when Orgeron proves the haters wrong.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:03 am to Chimlim
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:03 am to Chimlim
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He had to show the rest of the country Herman didn't turn him down, he turned Herman down. O was the man all along
Talk about the mother of all backfires that will be if O completely tanks and Herman brings UT back.
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Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:04 am to eyeofthetiger3
Calm down pal
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:07 am to justice
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justice
Yeah. Your opinion counts for shite. I bet your parents wish they could have that money back they wasted trying to get you educated.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:31 am to LNCHBOX
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No, it;'s a fact backed up by his current result at LSU coupled with his colossal failures at Ole Miss.
9-4 won't get a coach fired at LSU first full year in his regime no matter how much you want to be. Add 6-2 as interim and based on current results it is 50/50 on pros and cons. The drama with Canada did not help. Add some recruiting losses yet some wins and it remains an on the fence type performance.
Your second one is just your opinion you are passing on as fact. WRONG! No one here is God or have a crystal ball to see the future. He MIGHT be able to succeed. I can see him failing or succeeding and that is just an opinion that I WILL NOT pass on as fact.
This board proves some folks have horrific reading comprehension, have no idea what objectivity means and have no respect for any one's opinions but their own. That is meant in general and not specifically you. Each to their own.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:38 am to Canwoodtiger
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9-4 won't get a coach fired at LSU first full year in his regime no matter how much you want to be.
No, but it should have been enough to get Alleva fired and Orgeron put on notice that he’d better improve.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:40 am to Mo Jeaux
His record....6-2 in SEC last year and 9-4. Meh OK numbers that are not good enough to do the ultimate and win championship but not bad enough to totally discount. The team rallied after Troy. Granted it should not have been in that position.
And I don't care how weak the SEC was perceived to be last year. A win is a win vs SEC team any year. The second half vs Aubie was O's finest moment as a HC yet in his a career. He and the staff simply outcoached Malzahn - the same coach who beat Saban and Kirby the same year.
Some good recruiting to fill depth at both OL / DL the Jeaux coups, good hires in Cregg and Busch (so far) keeping Aranda around.
However, there are the two terrible losses to Troy and Miss state and not going for it vs ND. He missed on some key recruits and he should went after Goodrich and not spend too many resources and time on chasing Foster. Some good and some bad in recruiting and on the field results. That is factual IMHO.
So there are as many pros and cons about his regime so far. That is why IMHO it can go either way. His time has not been a colossal failure like some think it is nor a wonderful success. Something in the middle. That is where we are right now IMHO.
And I don't care how weak the SEC was perceived to be last year. A win is a win vs SEC team any year. The second half vs Aubie was O's finest moment as a HC yet in his a career. He and the staff simply outcoached Malzahn - the same coach who beat Saban and Kirby the same year.
Some good recruiting to fill depth at both OL / DL the Jeaux coups, good hires in Cregg and Busch (so far) keeping Aranda around.
However, there are the two terrible losses to Troy and Miss state and not going for it vs ND. He missed on some key recruits and he should went after Goodrich and not spend too many resources and time on chasing Foster. Some good and some bad in recruiting and on the field results. That is factual IMHO.
So there are as many pros and cons about his regime so far. That is why IMHO it can go either way. His time has not been a colossal failure like some think it is nor a wonderful success. Something in the middle. That is where we are right now IMHO.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:45 am to 00 Tech Grad
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No, but it should have been enough to get Alleva fired and Orgeron put on notice that he’d better improve.
Got news for you. It does not work that way. And what you think should happen and what will can be two different things. 9-4 is good enough for the HC to stay and the AD to stay in majority of situations. That is the MAJORITY opinion of those who make those type of decisions. Of course even they would agree that we can't just go 9-4 forever without an end in sight when it comes to winning the next championship.
The powers that be don't think like you nor respect your opinion (or mine for that matter LOL!). The opinions of the top 100 in TAF are what matters, the governor, the university president, the administrators and a handful of others. Only the big money folks in TAF can make changes and if they are willing to take a wait and see approach whether you or like it or not - well tough chiite! Those are the facts IMHO.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 11:46 am
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:46 am to Canwoodtiger
It was a down SEC last year.
I love that this is viewed as a positive. Do you use this in your professional life? Screw something up completely and then tell your boss that you rallied? It's asinine.
This is O's career highlight. Doesn't speak too highly for expecting future results.
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The team rallied after Troy.
I love that this is viewed as a positive. Do you use this in your professional life? Screw something up completely and then tell your boss that you rallied? It's asinine. quote:
The second half vs Aubie was O's finest moment as a HC yet in his a career.
This is O's career highlight. Doesn't speak too highly for expecting future results.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:47 am to Mo Jeaux
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I love that this is viewed as a positive. Do you use this in your professional life? Screw something up completely and then tell your boss that you rallied? It's asinine.
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It was a down SEC last year.
Don't care.
What is asinine is your thought process that everything should be perfect. Screws up happen. It is about correcting mistakes. The problem was the mistakes were HUGE - Troy and Miss St. Again, one con and pro.
Basically dude you are just being contrarian for the sake of it. I don't have time for it. Peace and out...
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 11:49 am
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:49 am to Canwoodtiger
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Don't care.
Good. Then you won’t make excuses if O loses to stronger SEC teams this year.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:50 am to Canwoodtiger
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Don't care.
Of course you don't.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:51 am to Mo Jeaux
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This is O's career highlight. Doesn't speak too highly for expecting future results.
Actually it shows he can rally a team against high odds. And against a team that beat both of the participants in the NC game in the regular season. Unfortunately, it does not diminish the other four losses in the season or the Troy and MSU disasters.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:51 am to Canwoodtiger
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What is asinine is your thought process that everything should be perfect.
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It is about correcting mistakes.
How is he doing this?
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Troy and Miss St. Again, one con and pro.
I think they're both cons, but that's just me.
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Basically dude you are just being contrarian for the sake of it. I don't have time for it. Peace and out...
You and ben should form a knitting circle.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:52 am to Canwoodtiger
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Actually it shows he can rally a team against high odds.
O is always having to rally teams. It's odd.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:52 am to Mo Jeaux
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Of course you don't.
Damn right! A win in SEC is a win regardless the year. Only a fricked up person with their head up their arse can't see that.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:56 am to Canwoodtiger
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Actually it shows he can rally a team against high odds. And against a team that beat both of the participants in the NC game in the regular season.
Just my two cents on the game, but LSU came out ultra conservative on both sides and completely unprepared to play. Once Auburn went up big, the coaches were forced to break away from the conservative game plans and fortunately Auburn let up and couldn't ever recover.
The comeback was great and the staff deserves credit for that. I just have to wonder why they couldn't have come out and played that way in the first quarter. Also, what would have happened if it was only a 10 point lead at the end of the first quarter? Obviously, we will never know.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:56 am to Canwoodtiger
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Damn right! A win in SEC is a win regardless the year.
No shite. But some wins are better or more impressive than others. Do you think it was more impressive beating A&M in 2012 when they had Manziel or this past year when they ended up firing Sumlin? Or are they they exact same?
The point people are trying to make is that going 6-2 this year isn't as impressive as going 6-2 in prior years when the SEC was stronger.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 11:59 am to Canwoodtiger
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Damn right! A win in SEC is a win regardless the year. Only a fricked up person with their head up their arse can't see that.
Just as our extremely good performance in the first portion of 2015 masked our weaknesses, our performance last year did the same. Those SEC were good and all, but Miss State had their best performance ever against us. Saban was having his team take a mercy knee against us. I can't help that you're unwilling or unable to examine our performance.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 12:12 pm to Canwoodtiger
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What is asinine is your thought process that everything should be perfect. Screws up happen. It is about correcting mistakes. The problem was the mistakes were HUGE - Troy and Miss St. Again, one con and pro.
Mistakes are fine (although I never heard anyone so tolerant of mistakes while Miles was here).
The problem is that Orgeron makes mistakes that competent coaches don't make, and that goes back to his OM days. Other coaches encounter adversity. Orgeron almost seems to seek it out with his questionable decision making.
Posted on 6/18/18 at 1:07 pm to Drizzt
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I gave Miles 6 years of defending him when he acted like an idiot several times a season.
Bully for you. But you said "You are not pulling for them to win when you constantly criticize and berate the current coaching staff." Nobody gives a flying frick how long you "defended" Miles.
You're being a hypocrite by calling people out for criticizing o when you yourself criticized Miles.
And o acted like an idiot several times last year himself.
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You haters won't give O 12 months.
12 months? o's been here longer than 12 months. And he started making boneheaded moves right from the get go.
This post was edited on 6/18/18 at 1:27 pm
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