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re: It will be great when Orgeron proves the haters wrong.

Posted on 6/17/18 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 11:17 am to
Understood. We just have to wait and see if what they tried this off season works. We will know some after the Miami game, win or lose. We will know a lot more after Aubie. Anything beyond that is too far away in the distance to even rationalize at this point.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17442 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 11:25 am to
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It will be great when Orgeron proves the haters wrong


I can’t wait...seriously, I don’t want to wait for this to happen. If it doesn’t happen this year, cut him loose
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 11:53 am to
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I will say that from what I've seen, most people that question Coach O are simply refuting others that are pointing unknowns as fact



This is unmitigated horseshite. You and others on this board generally attack anyone that says anything positive about O and company. You're full of shite.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103638 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:17 pm to
Oh please, PLEASE show me where I've attacked anyone at anytime for saying anything outside of a personal attack on me.

We have just been having a discussion about the football team. We just happen to disagree. But deal. No need to be so sensitive.

You're the one that seems to be on the attack simply because I don't share your view that coaching changes are an accomplishment and think we need to wait to see it on the field.
This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:24 pm to
How awesome would be to have a football coach so good that we didn't have threads where we had to debate whether or not he will "prove us wrong"??

Another way to look at this argument would be to take an evidence based approach. What evidence exists that suggests he won't prove us wrong?

Then we could look at the evidence that says he will?

How would long would those lists of facts be for each category?
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:28 pm to
It will be fun watching all the haters backtrack when O wins and say they were really behind him all along. Real LSU fans have long memories though.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:30 pm to
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will be fun watching all the haters backtrack when O wins and say they were really behind him all along. Real LSU fans have long memories though.
what if he doesn’t win? What will you say?
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:32 pm to
Does lacking confidence in the coach make one "not a real LSU fan"? I consider myself LSU through and through. I spend a good bit of money supporting the school in multiple respects. I'm a season ticket holder and go to every LSU sporting event that I can.

I do, however, hold the opinion that Orgeron is not a championship coach. That said, I'll be at all the games I can go to and will watch the others on tv. Rooting for the Tigers with every ounce of my heart.

Am I not a real LSU fan? Just curious how you define a real LSU fan. Is the main criterion that I have unconditional confidence in the head coach of a given team?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103638 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:32 pm to
Some people look at the past for evidence while some are looking forward and are hopeful. Neither is wrong, it's just a point a view.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:35 pm to
Hey looney, how's life buddy?

I hear you. I'm at a point with this where I can let a lot of this stuff go which speaks well to my emotional maturity, but this nonsense of saying you're not a fan of think O may not be the best guy for the job is a bit extreme.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103638 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:35 pm to
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Real LSU fans have long memories though.

Remember it, write it down, take a picture, makes no difference to me. It's ok to question things. I may be right, I may be wrong but either way I will still pull for them to win.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103638 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:37 pm to
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this nonsense of saying you're not a fan of think O may not be the best guy for the job is a bit extreme.

It is nonsense. We are all obviously very passionate about LSU and want what's best for the program. We just differ on how to get there and you know what? THAT'S OKAY TOO!!
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:37 pm to
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Am I not a real LSU fan?
according to “real fans” we are not supposed to have an opinion different from them. We must praise the coach no matter how unqualified he is. We must believe it’s all sunshine and rainbows and forget he’s unqualified.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103638 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:39 pm to
Nailed it.

Oh and you are attacking people if you question their opinions. That's a new one that I love.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:43 pm to
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what if he doesn’t win? What will you say


If he doesn't win fire his arse. What kind of dumb question is that? As of right now from what I can see the coaching staff has made the right moves to shore up weak spots and implement a successful offense. If it doesn't work out get rid of him but for the love of God why can't you dumbfricks acknowledge the those steps. It's not going to kill you to be objective and you'll have much more credibility later on. It also doesn't paint you into a corner if the program is successful.
This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103638 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:47 pm to
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the coaching staff has made the right moves to shore up weak spots and implement a successful offense

Simple question. Was this not the same thing that was said last offseason?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:48 pm to
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but this nonsense of saying you're not a fan of think O may not be the best guy for the job is a bit extreme


Not one serious poster has said this. Nobody was happy with the O hire. Some have come to grips with it and others such as yourself have turned into shitheads.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:50 pm to
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Simple question. Was this not the same thing that was said last offseason


Simple answer. What fricking difference does it make? We're talking about right fricking now.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115548 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:50 pm to
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Nobody was happy with the O hire.


Not true. We had a very large group of fans and media members openly campaigning for him to get the job because he was “one of us”. Those people tore down any other potential candidate no matter how qualified or exciting the potiential would be.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103638 posts
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:52 pm to
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Simple answer. What fricking difference does it make? We're talking about right fricking now.

No. That's a deflection. How can it not make a difference? The same person is hiring and evaluating the staff.
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