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re: It was not JJ stupid,

Posted on 1/11/12 at 4:04 am to
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21184 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 4:04 am to
everyone saying game plan, but whenever LEE messed up is was becuase he wasn't good (threw off back foot, got happy feet in pocket, couldn't allude the rush). Well last night I saw JJ fumbling snaps, throwing in the dirt, throwing high, throwing to far to one side or the other, and his interception .

Anyway why should it be different for one QB than the other QB, TEAM JEFFERSWAG trying to spin it all ways but the correct way JJ stunk up the joint last night and no offensive gameplan would have helped him.
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6286 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 4:16 am to
quote:

As stubborn as Miles was, John Chavis wasn’t exactly thinking outside of the box real quickly or effectively, either, when McCarron came out and started dissecting the Tigers’ defense.



Chavis knew that if he adjusted too much for McCarron's passing, that he would fall into Saban's trap and Richardson would run wild. Pitiful situation that LSU had nothing but an extremely poorly executed option play as an alternative to its power run game.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 4:32 am to
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Chavis knew that if he adjusted too much for McCarron's passing, that he would fall into Saban's trap and Richardson would run wild. Pitiful situation that LSU had nothing but an extremely poorly executed option play as an alternative to its power run game.


Bend but don't break. It worked for all practical purposes, the offense and ST's didn't do their part for this game. The game was well within reach for the offense until late.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21184 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 4:44 am to
I agree the defense played its heart out but when you're on the field that much anyone can and will get tired.

wing got tired of punting and hit some bad ones at the end and richardsons run was at the end when the defense wad tired.

Posted by lsufan52
new iberia la
Member since Oct 2009
1970 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 4:54 am to

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Posted by Paulu
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2006
4440 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 5:29 am to
Dumb SOB had a hole and blocker and ended the entire game on that ignorant decision.

STUPID SOB
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20196 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:19 am to
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couldn't allude the rush


Definition of ALLUDE

: to make indirect reference <comments alluding to an earlier discussion>; broadly : refer
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46296 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:21 am to
JJ cannot pass under pressure.........never has been able to.

We faced the best D twice and the second time he could not run....we were screwed after that.

JJ or JL

would not have mattered
Posted by 4EverLSU11
My desk at work
Member since Jan 2012
27 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:24 am to
I just watched the GIF of the "shovel pass" on Page 1 and after vomiting, I just realized something...

Even if Ware is ready for it, the pitch wasn't even close! It wasn't even an accurate shovel-pitch-pass!

frick!
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63990 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:26 am to
Bama planned to throw the ball. Saban look at the film saw what he did the first time didn't work and saw where West Virginia threw that underneath stuff all night. Les decided not to changed anything
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
7587 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:27 am to
It was both, JJ was totally ineffective at any skill to be displayed by a D1 QB. He was totally inept as a leader, and continuously looked dazed and confused while displaying blame on teammates. I will give you that the gameplan was absolutely horrendous.
Posted by TigerMom
Member since Nov 2007
414 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:29 am to
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Repeatedly fumble the snap from center???????


Are you kidding??? Did you see the exchanges on those????? 2 of them skirted the ground all the way back by an inch...
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:32 am to
JJ has been playing the exact same way since he has come on campus. Doesn't matter if the game plan was good or bad, bottom line JJ is limited with skills and never was a SEC QB.
Posted by simbo
Member since Jun 2011
1664 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:33 am to
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I said this in another post, they played the worst game of the season and it had to happen in the biggest of games.


You need go further with this one.....

There has never been a football team, in the history of college football, show up in the championship game flatter, with a worse gameplan on offense, as poorly prepared, and play as poorly offensively than the 2011 LSU Tigers in the BCSNCG.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:36 am to
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It was part JJ, part O line, part game plan and a big part of Bama playing a perfect game.

I think that's it in a nutshell, but I'd change the order a bit:
1. Bama playing a perfect game—credit where credit is due
2. Doomed-to-failure game plan
3. O-line dominated
4. No offensive traction with Jefferson (the first 3 points didn't help him a bit)
Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
7994 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 10:59 am to
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It was not JJ stupid,


It was the offensive game plan that sucked


The offensive game plan didn't panic and run... it didn't misread on the option EVERY TIME... it didn't fumble the ball and throw the worst pick in the history of the BCS championship... didn't say it played great and everyone else sucked....

Do I need to continue?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37006 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 11:00 am to
JJ was mostly responsible for the problems on the field, and Les was responsible for keeping him there.
Posted by A1tiger
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2008
1047 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 11:13 am to
Yeah I'm sure that asked him to fumble, and throw interceptions, and skip balls to open receivers, and never look in the direction of open receivers, and hold the ball for a sack instead of letting it fly and giving someone a chance. Your right he played great if that is what they asked of him.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 11:49 am to
JJ Played poorly. So did the oline. And they picked on our nickel corners all day. It wasnt just JJ. I think some people on here could have called a better game as afar as play calling
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6286 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 11:51 am to
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Even if Ware is ready for it, the pitch wasn't even close! It wasn't even an accurate shovel-pitch-pass!


And even if JJ was trying to guide Ware with the pitch (which we know he was too shell-shocked to think of or execute), it obviously would have run Ware right into the arms of the defender.
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