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It ain't philosophy, it's execution

Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:28 am
Posted by PacLSU
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:28 am
There is nothing inherently wrong with Les' philosophy. The problem is he is lackadaisical in execution.

You see it throughout his history. The "Clock-it" game, repeated time management issues, false start and delay of game penalties... the list goes on.

With Miles' offensive philosophy, the execution has to be spot on. He's not trying to trick anybody, he's just looking to beat them. Look at the number of missed opportunities in the Bama and hogs games. If executed correctly, LSU is right in the hunt to "finish first" in both of those.

And by the way, that doesn't make it a player problem. The coaches are responsible for getting the players ready to execute. They won't do it every time but what we see at LSU is a trend of poor execution, not outliers.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:30 am to
So he keeps recruiting players that can't "execute" this pretty basic gameplan?
Posted by Mohican
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:31 am to
Les' philosophy lends itself to a lack of execution.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69517 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:32 am to
quote:

the execution has to be spot on. He's not trying to trick anybody, he's just looking to beat them.


when you face physical fronts with our offense you struggle. Just because we can dominate weak dlines early in the year doesn't mean our execution has gotten worse when we play bama, ark, ole miss...it means their players aren't as easy to block...because they are better.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18815 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:33 am to
We should have the Les Miles game plan down to a T by now. No excuse.
Posted by Wind Rivers Tiger
Wyoming
Member since Sep 2011
1033 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:34 am to
His philosophy absolutely is a large part of the problem.
Posted by Night Train
Member since Aug 2009
333 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:35 am to
Doesn't matter if we are playing a Pee Wee team or Bama, Les will keep hammering his head into a brick wall thinking the result will be different. We are like the big goofy strong kid everybody laughs at and makes fun of but people know if they ever got really serious and pissed they'd be in trouble.
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
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Member since Aug 2004
7254 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:35 am to
It comes down to OL and DL recruiting.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:36 am to
COACHES ARE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE
/thread
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34081 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:36 am to
quote:

here is nothing inherently wrong with Les' philosophy. The problem is he is lackadaisical in execution.

Think less, post less, breathe less

If it is lack of execution, that means the players are not being coached correctly, so we are back to poor coaching.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:37 am to
It's both.

And I also suspect by the evidence that Les wants to be viewed as the nicest man who ever walked the sidelines... which has resulted in obvious discipline problems on the field.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:39 am to
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Doesn't matter if we are playing a Pee Wee team or Bama, Les will keep hammering his head into a brick wall thinking the result will be different.

Did you watch the Arkansas game? My problem isn't with him stubbornly running the ball, it's that no matter what type of offense he tries to throw out there, it's basically total garbage. Horrid execution, no fluidity, mass confusion and we never seem to want to put our best athletes in position to succeed. Enough is enough.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:40 am to
Maybe the players don't know what he wants because they can't understand all of that convoluted gibberish that comes out when he speaks.


Offensive team "so coach, when the clocks running down and we're out of timeouts, you want us to clock it?"

Miles "i expect us to achieve our goal of not being second and have the ability to have the want the outcome we've selected. Being able to reach those goals and having said want, it would 'be beneficial, but not necessarily a must, for the clock not to expire and a chance for young men to lead and overcome the adversity of the situation"
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 1:32 pm
Posted by ChurchillVFW
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
479 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:41 am to
Execution? I'm all for it
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:42 am to
quote:

He's not trying to trick anybody


Exactly, he and his staff have no plans of attack. They're going to run their same offense and dare people to stop them. That's just lazy and unfair to the players. Trust me, if the defense knows what's coming, they're going to stop it. Unless they're physically unable to which is about 80% of the teams we play. You have to adapt your game plan for the other 20%. Stubborn Les does not believe this.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:43 am to
Good point.

"The desire to get back on track is a sincere feeling in this program."

I mean, who talks like that?

Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19743 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Execution? I'm all for it


An old John McKay reference - a classic!
Posted by sicboy
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79284 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:44 am to
That fine line between genius and madness.
Posted by PacLSU
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Think less, post less, breathe less

If it is lack of execution, that means the players are not being coached correctly, so we are back to poor coaching.


quote:

And by the way, that doesn't make it a player problem. The coaches are responsible for getting the players ready to execute. They won't do it every time but what we see at LSU is a trend of poor execution, not outliers.


You don't read well. You are good at being an a-hole, though, so there's always that.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19743 posts
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:45 am to
quote:

There is nothing inherently wrong with Les' philosophy. The problem is he is lackadaisical in execution.


don't know how you can say this with a straight face. His philosophy, at least on offense, is absolutely a big part of the problem.
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