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re: Is there anything worse than the last 30 seconds in basketball?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:57 pm to Mayhawman
Posted on 2/4/18 at 6:57 pm to Mayhawman
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Why should the fouled team be forced to shoot 1+1 if they rather run the offense and burn clock?
99.9% of the time they are shooting 2, not 1-and-1. Stop trying to fit it into your stupid argument.
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Is there another sport that gives an advantage to a fouling team?
It doesn't at all. If Team A is up by 6 with 45 seconds left, than the easy 2 points finishes it if they make their free throws. They make 2 and go up by 8. Lets say team B goes down and makes a quick 3. Now they are down 5 with 30 seconds left. A foul gives team A the chance to go up by 7, again keeping their lead. If team A misses their FTs, then they deserve to lose games. Its why FTs are probably the most important part of basketball.
If team A is up by 3 with 45 seconds. Team B can either elect to foul, or play D and get a stop.
If team A is up by 2 with 45 seconds left, team B is probably playing defense.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with basketball, that you could "improve" without screwing one team over.
I'll wait for you idiotic spin on what I said now.
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:17 pm to calcotron
quote:ive already sent in a rule change proposal to the NCAA. Limit timeouts, limit substitutions, make fouling penalties more severe during the last 2 minutes.
They need to change the rules where fouling in the last 1-2 minutes comes with a much more serious penalty. It is annoying and it is unwatchable. A game that looks like it will last a normal amount of time is suddenly 30 minutes longer. I think regardless of how many time outs a team has used so far, each should get knocked down to just 2, one of those being a 30 second, at the 2 minute mark.
A beautiful game drags to a slow crawl during the last 2 minutes. Something must be done.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:56 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:terrible comparison - theres no advantage in football to committing penalties on every play.
You telling me that in football, in a close game, that both teams play the exact same way they did the first 10 minutes of the qua
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:59 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:so that's your argument - let TV viewers switch channels? Good god.
No issue with it if the team trailing was able to save their time outs.
If it is a big issue, remotes usually work well at switching to another game/show.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:04 pm to atltiger6487
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theres no advantage in football to committing penalties on every play
What's the advatage in basketball?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:05 pm to atltiger6487
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so that's your argument - let TV viewers switch channels? Good god
No its not my argument dumb arse. I've stated my argument multiple times. Im just saying, if you don't like watching the last minute then turn off the damn tv
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:07 pm to Mayhawman
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Is there another sport that gives an advantage to a fouling team?
Yes actually, hockey... A team killing off a penalty can just dump the puck all the way down the ice with no repercussions when in a normal circumstance it'd result in an icing...
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:17 pm to Tigerfan7218
quote:OK, not sure what killing is in hockey, but take your word on it. I noticed it was rough but geeeez.
Yes actually, hockey. A team killing off a penalty can just dump the puck
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:19 pm to Mayhawman
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killing off
It's a phrase used when a team is short-handed after committing a penalty and trying to not give up a power play goal, pretty self explanatory
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:23 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:uh, stopping the clock, allowing substitutions, likely getting possession back if they miss.
What's the advatage in basketball?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:24 pm to Tigerfan7218
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It's a phrase used when a team is short-handed after committing a penalty and trying to not give up a power play goal, pretty self explanatory
Sadly, there are people in this thread that know as little about basketball as they do hockey.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:30 pm to atltiger6487
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likely getting possession back if they miss
So the free two points isn't an advantage to the offense? I guess in your mind a team should be able to miss two free throws and still easily win the game because they led after 39 minutes. They shouldn't need to hold that lead for the full 40 right?
Its still advantage offense, no matter which way you try to spin this. They are getting two, free, uncontensted, shots to pad their lead.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:33 pm to Tigerfan7218
quote:not quite the same. The rules compensate a bit because they've taken a player off the ice.
Yes actually, hockey... A team killing off a penalty can just dump the puck all the way down the ice with no repercussions when in a normal circumstance it'd result in an icing...
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:35 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:not necessarily. If the free throw shooter is a bad shooter, it's a disadvantage, and the offense would ordinarily run a play that tries to get a better shot, or at least not have the bad shooter shoot a 15-footer.
So the free two points isn't an advantage to the offense? I
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:39 pm to atltiger6487
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not necessarily. If the free throw shooter is a bad shooter, it's a disadvantage, and the offense would ordinarily run a play that tries to get a better shot, or at least not have the bad shooter shoot a 15-footer
A better shot than an uncontested free throw shot? You want them to give a damn free lay up if the defense fouls? Give me a damn break.
Having a bad shooter touch the ball would be a poor coaching decision.
And you know how you just used the stopping the clock and free sub as an argument for the defense having the advantage? The offense has that same advantage to get good free throw shooters on the court. Thats why you often see offensive/defensive subs in those spots.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:40 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:Not agreeing with being fouled in last minute giving no choice in inbounds or FTs is not ignorance of the game.
Sadly, there are people in this thread that know as little about basketball as they do hockey.
There was a time when 4 corners offense had the same mundane effect late in periods, and it was changed.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:43 pm to Mayhawman
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There was a time when 4 corners offense had the same mundane effect late in periods, and it was changed
Are you saying people can't run a "4 corners offense?"
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:47 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:Not with advantage of running much clock like prior to mid 80s.
Are you saying people can't run a "4 corners offense?"
If you're a purist, I guess you were pissed about intro of the shot clock.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:50 pm to Mayhawman
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If you're a purist, I guess you were pissed about intro of the shot clock
No. But what does that have to do with any of this thread? You aren't even comparing apples to oranges. You are comparing apples to lettuce.
The arguments being made in this thread are compareble to having a shot clock all game, and it going away in the final minutes to benefit the team winning more.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 8:52 pm
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