re: Is our fan base divided or do we just have a few select idiots?

LSU could and prob still win every game left regardless if JL or JJ doesnt take another snap.

This doing and playing the best to give us the best chance to win bullshite some of you keep spouting is old.
JL by himself or JJ by himself is enough to beat ark, uga.... same thing vs wuk and om.
Alabama is the only team id give consideration to that qb play/scheme is needed to win.

I'm not normally one to bitch about the JJ vs JL shite, but I would agree that I wish JL would start. That being said, JJ has played well and I like the wrinkles he adds to the offense. I think either way, this team is going all the way this year, and if LSU has to tee off against bama again, I like JJ to start. If some shitty team can get 21 on them by showing everyone how slow their LBers are, I like the speed option and michael ford to the outside. I think LSU can beat Bama handily if JJ starts and runs the option well.

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Is our fan base divided or do we just have a few select idiots?

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its the same difference as old money and new money, we just have a huge fan base that don't remember the lean years and are more "T-Shirt" fans than actual knowledgable football enthusiasts. I have the honor and privilege to have season tickets sitting amongst my grandfathers generation. they get there early for warmaups and stay till the end and that was during curly Hallman days too. they are steady and really understand the game and the personell issues so much better that most of us.

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I will say I believe Lee through his play this season had earned the starting job (despite circumstances it was given to him, I think he did earn it). I do not agree that one bad game can cost you even though I agree he needed to be pulled in that bad game. As far as which QB gives LSU a better chance to win, I think honestly it is the same. Both QB's are limited and as much as we like to talk about what Jefferson brings running, LSU has a stable of running backs that can run the ball. If Jefferson can continue to be accurate and show touch on his passes then it does give him an edge. LSU will need to complete the ball through the air, which is something Lee had been doing and if Jefferson continues then great. Yet I do not really think either one provides and edge in the W/L department over the other. LSU is winning because of running game, special teams, and defense.

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I think in practice, both QBs look equal throwing the ball. JJ's legs give him the edge as the starter. First INT he throws, you know JLee will be given his chance. I doubt that happens, we probably won't throw more than 50 passes the rest of the year.

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Whether or not you agree with it- it was much easier for Lee to lose his job this year than it was for JJ to lose his last year.

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Since you enjoy living in the past, how about applying this logic to 2008 with all the INT problems ?
I advise you to look forward to remains of season and next year, instead of lamenting your champion's dethroning.

I am arguing just to make time pass by quicker, I really don't give a damn. I just wanna bump my prediction thread at en of season where I sai LSU undefeated and playing Oregon in NC title (frick you ducks for losing to USC)

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You act like JL won those games

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where did I do this?

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Yall are mad that he is being treated unfairly b/c he led us to a number 1 ranking.

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at least you admit it that its somewhat unfair.

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I am just pointing out that he isn't the reason we are number 1.

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Hard to say this... Suppose we would have lost one of those games with another player undercenter? IDK if it would have happened, could it have happened? The answer is yes, It could have happend.
It could have happened vs orgeon, miss state and wva.
Im not saying JL won the game, Im saying that he made plays in each of those games that made a diff... without them who knows what could/would have happened.

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He played great and did his job and for that I am thankful but CLM doesn't owe him anything

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Sorry bro, I just disagree with this statement.
IMO ... a coach should be loyal to the players that helped get you where you are.
That goes for evey player on the team that contributes, not just the qb position.

Racism is an easy excuse here, yes some may be a bit racist but some may favor one over other. Some literally think Jefferson is a shitty QB like some think lee is a shitty QB.

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I will say I believe Lee through his play this season had earned the starting job (despite circumstances it was given to him, I think he did earn it). I do not agree that one bad game can cost you even though I agree he needed to be pulled in that bad game.
As far as which QB gives LSU a better chance to win, I think honestly it is the same. Both QB's are limited and as much as we like to talk about what Jefferson brings running, LSU has a stable of running backs that can run the ball. If Jefferson can continue to be accurate and show touch on his passes then it does give him an edge. LSU will need to complete the ball through the air, which is something Lee had been doing and if Jefferson continues then great. Yet I do not really think either one provides and edge in the W/L department over the other. LSU is winning because of running game, special teams, and defense.

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Possibly the best, most balanced post on the topic yet. This should be cut and pasted into any future threads on this worn out topic.

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IMO ... a coach should be loyal to the players that helped get you where you are.

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So ho many interceptions vs nationally ranked #2 must he endure before switching allegiance?
How would you manage that situation TigerLee?