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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?

Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:21 pm to
I don’t read your posts generally. I think you are on O-hater list. I’ll have to check. If not I will apologize
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:25 pm to
Michigan fans think he is.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:25 pm to
As it stands today with the information we know:

1. Saban
2. Smart
3. Jimbo/Orgeron in no particular order
5. Mullen

Then the rest

Orgeron could certainly jump Smart eventually and we don't know enough about Jimbo in year 2 to really say whether Orgeron or Jimbo is better.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:27 pm to
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You didn’t wait for anything. You’ve condemned him for 2 years.

Now let’s wait & see! Lol. frickin fool


What about this is confusing to you?

He's had two years before this that weren't to LSU's standard, or at least the standard that was established when Miles was fired. Now he's had a good start to one season and you want everyone to say everything is hunky dory?

It's "wait and see" until the time you've been performing well vastly outweighs the lean times. When he's performing well and he's sustained that performance, we will have seen it. But sure, let's give him a 10 year extension now. No hardware to speak of but sure, sign him up.

This is how it is for every coach. No one gets special treatment.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:28 pm to
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Orgeron could certainly jump Smart eventually
Orgeron jumped Smart last season with a 20-point beatdown in Georgia.
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
1273 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:30 pm to
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Orgeron jumped Smart last season with a 20-point beatdown in Georgia.


so how far ahead is Mullen?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:32 pm to
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It's "wait and see" until the time you've been performing well vastly outweighs the lean times


You haven’t waited to see about anything. You made your bed going on 2 years now. You don’t get to wait and see now. Sorry joe !



quote:

He's had two years before this that weren't to LSU's standard, or at least the standard that was established when Miles was fired.


He had to retool a program that had to fire its most winningest coach. I’ve laid you out the blueprint at the start of this, and how it would lead to this point, and all you’ve done is argue and bash everything. Again, you don’t get to wait and see anything. You’ve made a complete fool of yourself up until this point
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259898 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:33 pm to
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It's "wait and see" until the time you've been performing well vastly outweighs the lean times


Dude, Orgeron could win 3 straight championships and you'll still be on this pathetic denial campaign.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:34 pm to
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so how far ahead is Mullen?
We'll see in about 4 weeks.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32522 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:34 pm to
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Dude, Orgeron could win 3 straight championships and you'll still be on this pathetic denial campaign.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:35 pm to
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You haven’t waited to see about anything. You made your bed going on 2 years now. You don’t get to wait and see now. Sorry joe !



This tirade you're going on is about you trying to keep score of something, playing gatekeeper.

This is clearly about bragging rights or claiming some kind of gotcha moment for you. I just want LSU competing for championships like I know they can.

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He had to retool a program that had to fire its most winningest coach. I’ve laid you out the blueprint at the start of this, and how it would lead to this point, and all you’ve done is argue and bash everything. Again, you don’t get to wait and see anything. You’ve made a complete fool of yourself up until this point


Case in point. This is about you apparently. You just can't wait to say I told you so.

Why not wait until he gets some hardware pal?
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:36 pm to
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or at least the standard that was established when Miles was fired


what standard are you talking about? the 2005 to 2011 standard?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:38 pm to
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Dude, Orgeron could win 3 straight championships and you'll still be on this pathetic denial campaign.



Here you go, crying about validation for this guy again. Just enjoy the season brother. Stop crying about ridiculous hypotheticals that will never happen.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 12:39 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259898 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:39 pm to
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crying about validation for this guy again


No one is asking for your validation. Everyone knows your opinion. After a year of screaming to high heavens about how the offense wouldn't improve you're still reaching.
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
1273 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:39 pm to
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He had to retool a program that had to fire its most winningest coach. I’ve laid you out the blueprint at the start of this, and how it would lead to this point, and all you’ve done is argue and bash everything. Again, you don’t get to wait and see anything. You’ve made a complete fool of yourself up until this point


I think were in a great place, and O has figured it out.

But pretending going Canada/E/BRady and E was some sort of master plan is a bit silly.

I will giv credit were credit is due. O recognized that we needed a schematic change and actually made a good hire.

The "O finally has the offense he always wanted" narrative is silly.

Either he knew where the offense needed to go and had no idea how to get there (Canada and E are terrible hires if you want a HUNH RPO offense) OR he had no idea where to offense needed to go until this off season.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56201 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:40 pm to
Hard to argue that he isn’t
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:40 pm to
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He had to retool a program that had to fire its most winningest coach. I’ve laid you out the blueprint at the start of this, and how it would lead to this point, and all you’ve done is argue and bash everything.
Why do you argue with this guy? For the past year, he's claimed a 70% completion rate by Burrow is a "delusional" projection. Now that it appears likely that Burrow will maintain a 70%+ rate, Goldrush clams up.

The dude is not discussing sports. He is attempting to proclaim narratives (for all of us to bow to).
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 12:41 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259898 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:42 pm to
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You’ve made a complete fool of yourself up until this point


His whole offseason narrative has gone to shite.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:43 pm to
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His whole offseason narrative has gone to shite.
Stinky yellow runny shite/
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 12:46 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29973 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:44 pm to
Lets let the year play out.

Looking at head to head O is #4 I'd say

0-3 vs Saban
0-2 vs Mullen
0-1 vs Jimbo

But


SEC West
2-0 vs Malzahn
2-0 vs Matt Luke

SEC East
1-0 vs Kirby
1-0 vs Chad Morris
1-0 vs Barry Odom

Here's to a 1 added to the left column for every one of those guys we face, a 2 if we face School we face anyone multiple times.
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