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re: Is Orgeron a top 2 or 3 SEC Head Coach?
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:42 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:42 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Yeah, I’d say that too if I sounded like an imbecile all summer
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:45 pm to BeeFense5
quote:Then say it. Cause you did.
Yeah, I’d say that too if I sounded like an imbecile all summer
You and yours were clueless as to the fundamental need for mega-reps for WRs in an elite passing program.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:49 pm to BeeFense5
You dont remember being out coached and beat schematically when he was over at miss and at UF last year with worse athletes.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:51 pm to BeeFense5
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But I never understand why it upsets you when people factually state that Miles was a successful coach at LSU.
I have NEVER one time said he wasn't... Yet I have seen threads where Miles is brought up make bad choices and losing games he should not because ofhis coaching style and you would go nuts.....
I prasied Miles when he did great and bashed him when needed... Just like I have done with O.........
Bottom line is that youhope O fails..... SERIOUS...........
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:53 pm to dukke v
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Bottom line is that youhope O fails..... SERIOUS...........
What? Where have I ever said that?
Why would I book a trip to Bama if I was wanting him to fail or think we didn’t have a chance? That’s crazy.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:53 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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According to my source,
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:54 pm to BeeFense5
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Mullen is so overrated
Really.... Is O a better HC than Mullen??????
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:55 pm to dukke v
Mullen is better x’s and o’s But I like o’s program running ability Better
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:56 pm to dukke v
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Bottom line is that youhope O fails...
Why do you keep pushing this, PEEJ? It’s absurd and you know it
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:56 pm to BeeFense5
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Mullen is better x’s and o’s But I like o’s program running ability Better
So coach O is way overated like Mullen then right?????????????
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:58 pm to lsu2006
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Why do you keep pushing this, PEEJ? It’s absurd and you know it
Until he gives praise to O for what he seems to be building here then yes I believe he wants O to fail... He is THIS type of fan....
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:59 pm to dukke v
What? Is your key board broken?
Posted on 9/12/19 at 1:59 pm to dukke v
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So coach O is way overated like Mullen then right?????????????
People saying O is the 2nd or 3rd best coach in the SEC right now are definitely overrating him IMHO. But that doesn’t mean O isn’t doing a good job and doesn’t have things on the right track. I’d like to revisit this in December or January, though.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:00 pm to dukke v
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Until he gives praise to O for what he seems to be building
Where did I not? What is wrong with you?
Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:01 pm to lsu2006
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People saying O is the 2nd or 3rd best coach in the SEC right now are definitely overrating him IMHO
I agree..... I like what he is doing though... This could be a special year............
Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:03 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
You were telling people during the summer that Brady and O COULDN'T tell Moffit to add these reps.
IF you want to blame
-Les
-O
-Prior OCs
-Prior WR coaches
than people woudl agree with you.
Blaming Moffit is a weird move.
Hell if you had just said "we need to be getting a ton of Jugs reps this summer" people would have agreed with you.
IT was where you placed the blame and how specific you were in claiming to know things about the program that were wrong.
IF you want to blame
-Les
-O
-Prior OCs
-Prior WR coaches
than people woudl agree with you.
Blaming Moffit is a weird move.
Hell if you had just said "we need to be getting a ton of Jugs reps this summer" people would have agreed with you.
IT was where you placed the blame and how specific you were in claiming to know things about the program that were wrong.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:19 pm to BeeFense5
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Mullen is better x’s and o’s
who cares? Brady and Aranda are better x's and o's than Mullen.
quote:
But I like o’s program running ability Better
that's what the HC's job actually is. Does it really matter if Mullen would be a better OC or DC than Orgeron being that both are HC's right now? I would much rather have a HC who is better at being an HC than another HC who is really good at being an OC but isn't an OC but is a HC.
If I were a HC and both Mullen and Orgeron applied for my open OC job, I would hire Mullen. But if I am the AD at LSU and have a HC vacancy I would want to hire the coach who would be the better HC at LSU. Which is exactly what Alieva did. I am not even saying Orgeron is a better HC in general at some random college football program than Mullen. Maybe he is maybe he isn't. Maybe Mullen is a better HC for Florida than Orgeron would be as HC at Florida. But as for being the HC at LSU, I am taking Orgeron every time and it is not even close.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:27 pm to SportTiger1
The Overrating of O after 2 games is becoming unbelievable. Some of you are just trying so hard to glorify the man whose best achievement to date was beating a crippled G5 team in a bowl game that we got to for playing Miami instead of Clemson. If LSU plays Clemson and A&M plays Miami last year, A&M is going to the NY6 game and not LSU.
Our schedule last year turned out to be a dud, yet people continue to overplay its value.
O had one strong win last year prior to the bowls, an embarrassing loss to Bama (even by Miles' standards), and losses to Florida and A&M that should never have happened.
He's got one good win to date that LSU barely survived in some ways against a team with 8 new starters on a D that was ranked 112th in Pass Defense last year.
This year looks promising, but God some of you are giving this man way more credit that he deserves or has earned.
Also, no offense, but getting MSU to being ranked #1 late in the season carries a ton more weight than taking a loaded team to 10 wins.
Our schedule last year turned out to be a dud, yet people continue to overplay its value.
O had one strong win last year prior to the bowls, an embarrassing loss to Bama (even by Miles' standards), and losses to Florida and A&M that should never have happened.
He's got one good win to date that LSU barely survived in some ways against a team with 8 new starters on a D that was ranked 112th in Pass Defense last year.
This year looks promising, but God some of you are giving this man way more credit that he deserves or has earned.
Also, no offense, but getting MSU to being ranked #1 late in the season carries a ton more weight than taking a loaded team to 10 wins.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:34 pm to Todd O'Connor
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You were telling people during the summer that Brady and O COULDN'T tell Moffit to add these reps. IF you want to blame -Les -O -Prior OCs -Prior WR coaches than people woudl agree with you. Blaming Moffit is a weird move. Hell if you had just said "we need to be getting a ton of Jugs reps this summer" people would have agreed with you. IT was where you placed the blame and how specific you were in claiming to know things about the program that were wrong.
I don't; know about all these little intricacies to this argument, but in general and overall, Buckeye Jeaux crushed it in the whole jugs argument thing and has been nothing but fully validated in every way by all evidence including by the players and coaches themselves, by Jamar Chases statement, and by the obvious and dramatic improvement of our WR's sudden display of sure handedness over what we have seen from our WR core in previous years at least since OBJ and Landry were here (who by the way were known for going out of there way and seeking out use of the Jugs machines and using them fanatically). Just give it up brah and be happy that the jugs machines have finally been emphasized in the LSU program the way they have been at other successful programs (and also give a little credit to Buckeye Joe for being fully validated and for crushing the shite out of everyone in those excessively long running threads on this subject over the last year)
Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:44 pm to boxcar willie
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I don't; know about all these little intricacies to this argument,
or the basic facts.
He blamed Moffit for the WRs not getting jug machine Reps THIS summer and said that O and Brady couldn't tell him anythign about it or it would be a NCAA violation.
Recap of Reality.
Brady can and did tell Moffit to get the WRs jug machines reps.
The WRs had access and sued Jugs Machines all summer long.
EVERYONE agreed jugs machines are useful.
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