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re: Is Miles the best running game coach in college football?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:35 am to Choctaw
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:35 am to Choctaw
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no coach...in any sport...has ever won anything significant with shitty talent
this is true...but our talent at RB has been superior to other teams. I think pretty much any decent coach could take our RB talent and produce the same numbers we've had over the last few years.
Les's forte is getting these guys here. No disputing that.
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:36 am to atltiger6487
No we have not had a bunch of elite talent on the OL over the last decade. If you think so give me all those names.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:37 am to DIGGY
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ah whatever happened to that Urban guy at Utah? What's he doing now, running zone read offense at some high school probably.
That is funny, he is one name that rarely pops up even if ever of coaches our fans want over miles. Most called him a pussy that couldn't hack it that bread a thug culture. Is UF better now than before he got there? I'd say they have been worse. He didn't leave them in a good spit IMO.
But he's one if the best, but even if he had come to LSU, he would have left, just like saban. I think miles at least deserves a thank you for staying loyal to LSU. he bolts to Michigan, LSU is just another stepping stone job averaging 3 years per coach since McClendon. That's a pretty awful record for head coaches.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:38 am to gerkin
Coach Miles has all the evidence needed to be touted as the best head Coach,all you have is a stinking butt and a miniature mind ghergin
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:39 am to RedTigerRulz
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is is true...but our talent at RB has been superior to other teams. I think pretty much any decent coach could take our RB talent and produce the same numbers we've had over the last few years.
Les's forte is getting these guys here. No disputing that.
Las is smart then. LA has produced more talent at tailback than at qb in miles' tenure. so why not play to the strengths of your recruiting area?
I also think that's why chavis was a good fit here. he usually likes speed and uses tweeners. LA is loaded with athletes, not so much of the big nasties. he continually put safeties at linebacker and linebackers at de. the athletes coming out of LA fit what chavis wanted to do.
play to your strengths. Les for the most part has done that.
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 10:42 am
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:41 am to RedTigerRulz
so since we have a great RB and O-line....Miles sucks.
got it
got it
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:45 am to Choctaw
i didn't say that. Les got the RBs here...and the O-line...but let's not act like Saban or Meyer or a number of other coaches couldn't get the same results from these guys that we've seen so far.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:47 am to sabanisarustedspoke
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We run the same running play 30 times a game.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:51 am to Choctaw
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no coach...in any sport...has ever won anything significant with shitty talent
once again, an exaggeration of what I said.
I never said you can win championships with shitty talent. You've got to have some horses.
My general point is that truly great coaches can take lesser talent and coach them up and have success.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:51 am to Choctaw
Choctaw, I am often not on your side in some of these debates but holy shite the spinning going on here by some of these folks.
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 10:54 am
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:53 am to RedTigerRulz
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.but let's not act like Saban or Meyer or a number of other coaches couldn't get the same results from these guys that we've seen so far.
yeah...lets use 2 of the best coaches in college football as examples
that doesn't help your argument
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:54 am to atltiger6487
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this is absolutely correct.
Great coaches are best measured by what they do with lesser talent. With All-American's at RB and OL, my wife could coach us and we'd still have a good running game.
It's what a coach does with lesser talent that demonstrates his true greatness.
so much ignorance in this post
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:54 am to atltiger6487
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My general point is that truly great coaches can take lesser talent and coach them up and have success.
you mean like winning an SEC Championship with Jordan Jefferson and Jarrett Lee?
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:55 am to atltiger6487
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But when assessing true coaching ability, I like to see what coaches can do without elite talent.
i guess it's impossible to assess Saban's talent
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:01 am to atltiger6487
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Saban had Blake Sims at QB last year, and made it to the playoffs.
who else did he have on that team? people also like to forget Simms was a 4 star Qb coming out of high school
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Urban Meyer had a 3rd string QB, and won it all.
and they were all talented players
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:01 am to tigerskin
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Choctaw, I am often not on your side in some of these debates but holy shite the spinning going on here by some of these folks.
So what you're saying is that Les "coached" this kid up and turned him into the beast that he currently is. Les taught him those innate moves that he possesses and improved his speed plus showed him how to truck people...right? GTFO
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:03 am to RedTigerRulz
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So what you're saying is that Les "coached" this kid up and turned him into the beast that he currently is. Les taught him those innate moves that he possesses and improved his speed plus showed him how to truck people...right? GTFO
LF is an anomaly. don't be obtuse
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:05 am to atltiger6487
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My general point is that truly great coaches can take lesser talent and coach them up and have success.
what do you think Miles did at Oklahoma State? They'd had one winning season in 12 years prior to his arrival
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:06 am to Choctaw
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LF is an anomaly. don't be obtuse
Im not being obtuse Choc. We both know LF has talents that cant be taught at any practice.
Les did his part alright....he handed him the ball.....and he looks like a genius for doing so.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:07 am to RedTigerRulz
You keep talking about 1 year and I am talking about a decade. And the running game is more than the running back just as the passing game is more than the QB.
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 11:09 am
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