re: Is JLee ruined?

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I've mainly wanted JJ to be getting signifant reps not because I think he's better than Lee is right now, but because I'd like for him to at least have a taste of the SEC going into next season.

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i wasn't opposed to using 3 qb's going back to app state and north texas. i think he should have been getting snaps all along, but i think as a fan base we need to have a more open mind

my problem isn't with those who think he should be playing. it is with the ones who think lee can't/won't develop or lee is ruined or that somehow they have seen more from JJ in his limited time than what lee has shown in the same time frame when in actuality they arethe type of people that have actually added pressure on lee and probably hindered some of his growth

when it comes to sports people have an inherent desire to always want something different. doesn't really matter if it is better, just be different. this is no different and i have expected it all along, and fully expect it to continue, but it gave me something to talk about today

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arethe type of people that have actually added pressure on lee and probably hindered some of his growth

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again, if lee is that fragile when it comes to criticism, he might want to look at transferring.

Well at this point you have a pretty large sample size to make at least some what of a judgement on Lee. Some seem to want to write all of his mistakes up to being young and people being too negative. At what point do you say well maybe he just doesn't have the brains to run this offense? Probably too early at this point, but a large chunk of evidence does point in that direction

you could say some are being overly negative and some overly naive

i realize now how matt flynn was a "game manager"

it seems kind of obvious, but it was simply because he knew the playbook better. he knew how to run the plays, he knew where the recievers were supposed to be. the more you know an offense, the more comfortable you can be running it. if a play breaks down he was able to improv because he had a better idea of whats going on.

lee on the other hand is like a student going in to take a test without having studied and only with a cheat sheet.

on the other hand, lee seems to play best in a hurried up offense with the game on the line. why did they never let him run a little hurry up offense midgame?

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I'll be honest I'm rooting for JJ to be the guy simply because we'll be able to run crowton's full offense if he can be the guy. Not saying I am rooting against Lee though

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Is there a possibility that this potential may be ruined now that he's been through so much now

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He's shown a pretty good ability to bounce back from adversity and put it behind him, so I don't think the performance of this season, or the disappointment caused by the team's underachievement will keep him from reaching his potential.

What MIGHT keep him from reaching his potential is the possible split loyalties of his teammates who seem to have made our search for a QB into a personal issue. It seems apparent there's bad blood between Lee and Byrd, so I wonder how many other players will simply not play hard for him. If there are still a significant number of those on the team next year, that could prevent him from being able to improve and reach his potential.

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What MIGHT keep him from reaching his potential is the possible split loyalties of his teammates who seem to have made our search for a QB into a personal issue.

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Come on now, LSU has had this type of inner turmoil for decades now. Since Hodson left there has been spitsville with the QBs until JRoc's junior season. And since Hodson's departure, LSU has won 3 SECCs and 2 BCSCs with inner grumblings surrounding the QB position. If Lee cannot do what Rohan, Mauck, Russell and Flynn did under the same controversy, then Lee is not the QB for this particular team. The great Louisiana QBs do not come to LSU to play football, LSU seems successful enough getting outsiders to come and play this position and can continue to do so regardless of how Lee bounces back.

I think Lee has handled the criticsm exceptionally well given the totality of the circumstances. He's faced boos repeatedly in tiger Stadium and still keeps on. A major ingredient in this is that the players and receivers are still with him. they have not sought a divorce from him. His seasoning this year combined with off season prep for next year should see a vastly improved Lee in '09. He shows a lot of potential in the midst of this horrible nightmare.

JL is unphased. he can continue to go out and throw whatever play is called.

I honestly am starting to think RS comes in and starts within 3 or four games-- Pryor style.

JJ has upside, but i am much more impressed with RS maturity, intelligence, etc....which sounds like a stretch for a kid coming out of HS, but i think the offense may be better in his hands.

I, too, worry Lee may be done mentally. It's hard not to check out after such a terrible start, but i honestly still believe he has the chance to be a prolific passer here at LSU if he gets his head on straight.

But comparing RS and JJ, JJ has much more NFL upside and overall potential, but i think RS ability to run and throw affectively make him as dangerous of a player i've ever seen coming out of HS. JJ still has a LONG way to go both in his passing and in his ability to read defenses. I just wish the coaches would force him to alter that God awful delivery he has into something much quicker and more compact. IF he can polish his passing, maybe he will be the guy, but until then, i am unimpressed with him passing upside. Until he fixes his mechanics, he will always be shotty at best.

Marcus Randall is the best comparison I can think of for JJ at this stage. Lester Ricard is another solid example.