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re: Is everyone ready to give up on JJ?
Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:40 am to Gumbeaux21
Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:40 am to Gumbeaux21
I for one am almost to that point on JJ, but not quite yet. I have been very disappointed in what I perceive to be his lack of progress game one through 12. He has started/played 13 games now. No longer a rookie.
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Posted on 12/16/09 at 5:53 am to Roaad
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After having seen Flynn play as a 5th year senior, you think Flynn was better than JJ in his second year?
Dude, I hope that they don't have random (or for cause for that matter) drug testing where you work. This year's team might have gone undefeated with MF at QB.
And I am tired of the "he's 19" excuse. I don't see that he will ever be a championship caliber QB, unless we simplify the offense, and do a better job of playing to his skill set (rollout instead of pocket passing). I really hope I am wrong, because I do not think Miles will make the change if he doesn't progress.
Posted on 12/16/09 at 7:49 am to Icansee4miles
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Dude, I hope that they don't have random (or for cause for that matter) drug testing where you work. This year's team might have gone undefeated with MF at QB.
And I am tired of the "he's 19" excuse. I don't see that he will ever be a championship caliber QB, unless we simplify the offense, and do a better job of playing to his skill set (rollout instead of pocket passing). I really hope I am wrong, because I do not think Miles will make the change if he doesn't progress.
Does it matter that he is a pro-style QB that ran the wide open spread offense is high school? That means he was in the shotgun most of the time and he threw a lot of quick passes, here's the kicker, FROM THE POCKET. His lack of progression has more to do with the coaches fricking up the entire offense more than people even realize.
Posted on 12/16/09 at 7:54 am to Icansee4miles
quote:With this OL and our absolute inability to run the football.
This year's team might have gone undefeated with MF at QB.
Flynn would put up FAR worse numbers than JJ. Hell, he already put up worse numbers with a solid running game and a great OL.
This post was edited on 12/16/09 at 7:57 am
Posted on 12/16/09 at 7:56 am to Icansee4miles
quote:Please list 19 year olds that are worth a shite in their jobs in any career, please.
And I am tired of the "he's 19" excuse
Posted on 12/16/09 at 8:01 am to Roaad
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Please list 19 year olds that are worth a shite in their jobs in any career, please.
Please, 90% of the morons on this board couldn't even get the ugly chick at the bar to rub their leg after 2 a.m. when they were 19 much less orchestrate one of the most complex offenses in college football.
This post was edited on 12/16/09 at 8:03 am
Posted on 12/16/09 at 8:42 am to Icansee4miles
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This year's team might have gone undefeated with MF at QB.
WTF have you been smokin?
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(rollout instead of pocket passing)
By saying this you admit the pocket is collapsing right after the snap.
You still have to have some blocking. DEs were all over him.
Posted on 12/16/09 at 9:10 am to Roaad
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In east Tennessee, at a 4A high school.
wow
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did you ever graduate middle school?
ooooooo......lol
lets see, I started as a senior in 5A at QB, the guy in front of me is still in the NFL, Played D-1 baseball at a Rival school, drafted in the 7th round. played 3 years, 1 in Japan. Had three surgeries, retired, and went back to school...fyi
This post was edited on 12/16/09 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 12/16/09 at 9:25 am to Roaad
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And I am tired of the "he's 19" excuse
Please list 19 year olds that are worth a shite in their jobs in any career, please.
well, if he's not worth a shite then why is he playing?
Posted on 12/16/09 at 9:29 am to TigerFan55555
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ooooooo......lol
lets see, I started as a senior in 5A at QB, the guy in front of me is still in the NFL, Played D-1 baseball at a Rival school, drafted in the 7th round. played 3 years, 1 in Japan. Had three surgies, retired, and went back to school...fyi
That's a lot of shite considering you also had the time to become a psychologic engineer (NASA). ORRRRRRRRRRRR, you're full of shite. I'll go with the latter.
eta: WTF is a surgi?????
This post was edited on 12/16/09 at 9:31 am
Posted on 12/16/09 at 9:58 am to Gumbeaux21
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think CG is going to be a great QB in the future but will he run the same type of offense as JJ??
JJ will start for the rest of his career at LSU, and CG might not ever get to start... we may have a recruit coming in who is better then him... and CG is 4th string for a reason... because face it guys CG is not even better then J Lee.....
everyone should have enjoyed j Russell while he lasted... we wont have another qb like russel, mauck, davey, or flynn for a while...
Posted on 12/16/09 at 10:15 am to RobbBobb
it's too bad JJ has not really had a chance to develop, due 100% from lack of coaching, and /or the lack thereof and a lack of direction. he may not have the time to ever be a top flight SEC qb, and apparently next years offensive line won't have the experience to baby him along. if crowton persists in running the shitty option w/JJ, it will say a lot. obviously the atheltes have to fit certain plan to see the field , and there will be no deviation from the offense we run. period. regardless of ability and skill that might fit another system. i think we should get used to 9-3 seasons, or even less. the handwriting is on the wall
Posted on 12/16/09 at 10:25 am to TigerFan55555
how did you start but a guy in front of you? That makes no since. Also doean't mean you know shite about being a qb. Hell j lee started too
Posted on 12/16/09 at 11:29 am to Roaad
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After having seen Flynn play as a 5th year senior, you think Flynn was better than JJ in his second year?
Did you miss Flynn destroying the 9th ranked U his Soph yr?. MVP of the Bowl game? His first start ever????
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Gameball goes to... LSU quarterback Matt Flynn. Flynn was unflappable for the Tigers, completing 13-of-22 passes for 197 yards and 2 TDs against 0 INTs (164.31). Also carried the ball 5 times for 39 yards = 7.8 yds/carry.
Did I mention it was against the 9th ranked team in the nation?
And before you invent any JJ stats. Chick bowl:
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Jefferson was 16-of-25 for 142 yards and a touchdown (124.91). He added nine carries for 33 yards = 3.67 yds/carry.
Posted on 12/16/09 at 11:30 am to Gumbeaux21
frick no! The kid is progressing and will make himself and everyone else proud.
Go gett'em JJ!
Go gett'em JJ!
Posted on 12/16/09 at 11:34 am to TIsuGGER
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Did I mention it was against the 9th ranked team in the nation?
And before you invent any JJ stats. Chick bowl:
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Did you purposely forget to mention that we shredded Miami's defense for almost 300 yds on the ground? We barely had half of that against Ga. Tech. Yes, it makes a huge difference.
Posted on 12/16/09 at 11:47 am to TigerFan55555
quote:You are the most lying motherfricker in the history of the Rant, Mr Psychologic Engineer (NASA).
ooooooo......lol
lets see, I started as a senior in 5A at QB, the guy in front of me is still in the NFL, Played D-1 baseball at a Rival school, drafted in the 7th round. played 3 years, 1 in Japan. Had three surgies, retired, and went back to school...fyi
Posted on 12/16/09 at 12:10 pm to Roaad
DEFINITELY not ready to give up on JJ.
Look at these career progressions:
Jamarcus Russell
Redshirt Freshman year 50% completions 1,053 yds 9 td 4 int 127 rating
Redshirt Sophomore year 60.5% completions 2,443 yds 15 td 9 int 136.6 rating
Redshirt Junior year 68% completions 3,129 yds 28 td 8 int 167 rating
Jordan Jefferson
True Freshman year 49% completions 419 yds 4 td 1 int 112.9 rating
True Sophomore year 62% completions 1,984 yds 16 td 6 int 137.8 rating
Look at these career progressions:
Jamarcus Russell
Redshirt Freshman year 50% completions 1,053 yds 9 td 4 int 127 rating
Redshirt Sophomore year 60.5% completions 2,443 yds 15 td 9 int 136.6 rating
Redshirt Junior year 68% completions 3,129 yds 28 td 8 int 167 rating
Jordan Jefferson
True Freshman year 49% completions 419 yds 4 td 1 int 112.9 rating
True Sophomore year 62% completions 1,984 yds 16 td 6 int 137.8 rating
Posted on 12/16/09 at 12:12 pm to beardedzeus
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Jamarcus Russell
Redshirt Freshman year 50% completions 1,053 yds 9 td 4 int 127 rating
Redshirt Sophomore year 60.5% completions 2,443 yds 15 td 9 int 136.6 rating
Redshirt Junior year 68% completions 3,129 yds 28 td 8 int 167 rating
Jordan Jefferson
True Freshman year 49% completions 419 yds 4 td 1 int 112.9 rating
True Sophomore year 62% completions 1,984 yds 16 td 6 int 137.8 rating
Posted on 12/16/09 at 12:27 pm to Roaad
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Redshirt Junior year 68% completions 3,129 yds
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True Sophomore year 62% completions 1,984 yds
Damn is right! Easy to get a 62% completion percentage when you're thowing 3 - 4 yard passes. Not that impressive.
Also, where does it show in those stats about the number of unnecessary sacks taken? (not talking about the ones where either had no chance of throwing because of piss poor blocking. Talking about the ones where the QB thinks he is still in the green no-contact jersey and has 5 minutes to throw the ball)
This post was edited on 12/16/09 at 12:28 pm
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