re: Iowa Offense and the 3 TE set

Iowa needs to play in a phone booth with you guys. It would be stupid for Iowa to try to spread you out and do the "get it to your athletes in space" since we don't have a lot of playmakers in the skill positions.

This is how they approached OSU since they have a lot of speed like LSU.

The hawks won't be exclusively be in "heavy packages". You'll see I formation with 3 wides and empty backfields in 3rd and long (oh geesh).

Your success defending iowa's O will come down to getting the Hawks "off schedule" on 1st down. This exactly what OSU did in the 2nd half and it worked. They played their gaps and stopped the run on 1st down.

Speaking of long drives....(I'll try pasting this) and give link. I watched the Stanford Oregon Game this year. Stanford got the ball with 8+ minuites to play in the half and held the ball the whole time.

It was a thing of beauty.


Stanford at 8:26
1st and 10 at STAN 2 Tyler Gaffney rush for 2 yards to the Stanf 4.
2nd and 8 at STAN 4 Tyler Gaffney rush for 2 yards to the Stanf 6.
3rd and 6 at STAN 6 Kevin Hogan rush for 12 yards to the Stanf 18 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at STAN 18 Tyler Gaffney rush for 5 yards to the Stanf 23.
2nd and 5 at STAN 23 Tyler Gaffney rush for 6 yards to the Stanf 29 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at STAN 29 Kevin Hogan pass complete to Tyler Gaffney for 15 yards to the Stanf 44 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at STAN 44 Kevin Hogan pass incomplete to Ty Montgomery.
2nd and 10 at STAN 44 Tyler Gaffney rush for 3 yards to the Stanf 47.
3rd and 7 at STAN 47 Kevin Hogan rush for 11 yards to the Oregn 42 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at ORE 42 Ricky Seale rush for no gain to the Oregn 42.
2nd and 10 at ORE 42 Kevin Hogan pass complete to Ryan Hewitt for 6 yards to the Oregn 36.
3rd and 4 at ORE 36 Tyler Gaffney rush for 3 yards to the Oregn 33.
4th and 1 at ORE 33 Timeout STANFORD, clock 1:56.
4th and 1 at ORE 33 Tyler Gaffney rush for 4 yards to the Oregn 29 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at ORE 29 Kelsey Young rush for no gain to the Oregn 29.
2nd and 10 at ORE 29 Timeout OREGON, clock 1:18.
2nd and 10 at ORE 29 Kevin Hogan pass complete to Ryan Hewitt for 9 yards to the Oregn 20.
3rd and 1 at ORE 20 Tyler Gaffney rush for 3 yards to the Oregn 17 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at ORE 17 Timeout STANFORD, clock 0:37.
1st and 10 at ORE 17 Ty Montgomery rush for 14 yards to the Oregn 3 for a 1ST down.
1st and Goal at ORE 3 Tyler Gaffney rush for no gain to the Oregn 3.
2nd and Goal at ORE 3 Timeout STANFORD, clock 0:11.
2nd and Goal at ORE 3 Kevin Hogan pass incomplete.
3rd and Goal at ORE 3 OREGON penalty 1 yard Pass Interference on Troy Hill accepted.
1st and Goal at ORE 2 Timeout OREGON, clock 00:01.
1st and Goal at ORE 2 Jordan Williamson 19 yard field goal GOOD.


Those 3rd and long gash runs are devestating to a defense.

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they gonna run all over us

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Yea, if Chief doesn't come up with a "special d", then we "gonna be in fo a wurmin."

LSU wasn't that great at stopping the pass either. Every team except aTm oddly enough moved the ball on this defense.

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The Welter comments are getting old. I don't understand LSU fans wanting to constantly bash the guy.

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If I were Chavis, I would man up on the WRs, bracket the TE(s) with a safety deep and LB short and keep 8 in the box.

There's no question LSU has more athletes than the Hawks, but I think Iowa has a schematic advantage if LSU doesn't force the issue with their speed.

I would blitz all day long from every different angle possible and not let Iowa breathe. It may lead to a broken play here or there, but it might also absolutely overwhelm an Iowa offense that will desperately attempt to possess the ball for longer than LSU does.

Watch the first half of the Michigan St. game and you'll see what I'm talking about. Play side slants because there's no cutback to worry about from Weisman. Now, Iowa has countered this by giving Canzeri more playing time and he does cut back very well, but I would sell out to stop the run and make Iowa's receivers try to beat the Tiger DBs.

I think that if LSU takes this approach and absolutely stymies the Iowa offense, that it could be the one way (barring a bunch of turnovers) that the Tigers blow out the Hawkeyes.

We do still have a solid D to fall back on, but if they're on the field all game long due to a poor offensive performance, Iowa is in big trouble.

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With all due respect to you and the Tiger fans, LSU's 2013 Outback Bowl defense does not look to have the horses to pull off the blitzkrieg as described above.

Corey Thompson (#1 FS - #2 SS) is out. #3 SS, Micah Eugene, has left the team. So outside of Loston, their senior #1 SS, there is no proven depth.

There is talk this week of working Mills (#1 corner) in at safety, and if that happens then Rashard Robinson will replace him, giving you (along with White) 2 true freshmen CBs who weigh in at 165 and 175, respectively. It also gives you a true soph FS in Mills, a freshman All-America corner back last year, playing out of his natural position with little depth behind him. There is Martin (Jr.) available if his foot heals, but beyond that you're looking at another TF in Rickey Jefferson.

There is high risk in blitzing safeties and undersized corners into Iowa's offense, especially with a big RB, FB and TEs available to block. They can have success in spots, but it will take a physical toll as the game wears on, which isn't what you want to have happen to a secondary whose depth is already razor thin. The corners will also have to provide consistent run support to the outside, with the receivers peeling off to take the safeties and either the FB, TE or pulling guard coming out side to seal the edge in front of a big RB.

I'm not picking on LSU or saying they can't be successful against Iowa on defense, but attacking them they way MSU did isn't the best strategy.

Les Miles said it best in his Monday press conference: this is going to be a fight for both teams for four quarters. Iowa is going do it's best on offense to pound, and pound, and pound away and see what happens the second half when attrition begins to set in for both teams.

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Speaking of long drives....(I'll try pasting this) and give link. I watched the Stanford Oregon Game this year. Stanford got the ball with 8+ minuites to play in the half and held the ball the whole time. It was a thing of beauty.

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It was a very pretty game to watch until the last 4-5 mins.

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Iowa fans-is this how Ferentz typically wants his offensive line? Just curious.

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Ferentz runs the style of play based on the talent he can usually get in Iowa. So we get lots of good linemen and tight ends and decent running backs. Iowa rarely gets those NFL wide receiver types.

So it's run first and run some more until they cheat and then throw in play action.

They practice running into the teeth of the defense and stacked boxes. Feretnz said once that evyerone stacks the box against Iowa. So execution is the key - they rely on exact execution rather than deception 95% of the time.

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There is high risk in blitzing safeties and undersized corners into Iowa's offense

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if we're in base personnel, we don't blitz the DBs that much. pretty much never bring the CBs. all you're really gonna get is Loston playing down in the box and maybe coming off the edge here and there. he will blitz the LBs though.