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re: Indian Mounds to be fenced again
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:07 am to Skooter
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:07 am to Skooter
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you make things into fact that aren't fact and then make outlandish and irrational analogies to try to prove your point.
No, it's not outlandish at all. You're right the mounds are just hills and the nam memorial is justa list of names. I pay for lsu tickets : I do what I want. I pay my taxes : I do what I want.
What the native americans used them for is irrelevant and if you even take that into account you're already missing the point. It's an artifact. If you're that concerned with sliding down a hill... Move to Colorado! If people on the mounds is potentially damaging it makes frickig sense to prevent people from going on the mounds.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:08 am to nosaj56
Older than the pyramids. Little respect for the Souls of the Indians sounds more than reasonable.
Should have been done long ago. It is a historical landmark.
Should have been done long ago. It is a historical landmark.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:09 am to Catman88
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But why is LSU claiming to protect something from something then turn around and drive heavy machinery on it?
Why are people against kids on the mounds but not the lawncare methods? If you are going to protect them then protect them from everything.
it doesn't matter why
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:09 am to Catman88
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LSU can do whatever they want.
We have reached a conclusion. Thank you for your time. I am glad that we can agree.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:10 am to LoneStarTiger
Should have been protected long ago.
Maybe some Indian curse is on our offense right now?
Maybe some Indian curse is on our offense right now?
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:11 am to Paulu
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Little respect for the Souls of the Indians
Where do people get this shite from??
There is ZERO evidence of this.
How many of you are going to lay in front of the lawnmower when it tries to cut the mound next week?
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:12 am to Skooter
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The indian mounds are not going anywhere. Some new kids get to campus and need a cause and all of a sudden generations of tradition must go away.
Sliding on Indian Mounds is a tradition passed on by families - where?
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:13 am to nosaj56
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Last week, some children used signs reading, “Please do not slide on the mounds” and “Help preserve the mounds,” as makeshift sleds on the mounds.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:15 am to sec13rowBBseat28
If it's a temporary fence, what's to stop the fans from taking it down?
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:16 am to Catman88
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Any remote amount of proof and non theory is also ok.
What possible proof could there be? These were built ~6,000 years ago. Let me find some ancestors that still remember the folk stories their long lost descendants claimed...Jesus. You are asking for the impossible. That is why we have empirical, systematic science to be able to try to 'theorize' about the past through research and observation. What this research and observation has lead to is a general agreement (remember in the scientific method process there is no fact only supported or dis-proven theories) that these are symbolic sites of significance (most of which being in other civilizations: burial grounds).
Still, as another poster stated. Does it matter what they are? They have been around 6k years shouldn't we try to preserve our history? Preservation is not just related to American symbols.
About the report for the soil sample, I am searching for one. I am not a geologist so do not know where their academic journals are found on line. I may try calling the LSU department for help. But why shouldn't we take their word for it? They are trained in the scientific knowledge regarding these cases. I mean during the oil spill fiasco all I remember reading is 'why is the government intervening? The engineers for BP are the ones who do this for a living and they are the most capable'. Why is it here when it is geologists from LSU reporting something all of a sudden it is not taken for face value and it is questioned with anecdotal evidence that "I have seen people slide down the hill for generations and nothing has happened"? Do you really think these guys are just out there stating random shite to try to ruin people's Saturdays? Do you not think there is a peer-review process? Do you not think there is internal competition and the whole scientific process is about disputing others claims so someone would stand up if this was not the general consensus?
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:17 am to BooBoo
With liitle bit of luck hitler will rise from the grave and take up genetic cleansing in Louisiana...
But barring that I'd settle for the lsu p.d.
But barring that I'd settle for the lsu p.d.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:18 am to YellowShoe
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Sliding on Indian Mounds is a tradition passed on by families - where?
I really hope most of these morons didn't actually attend LSU.
Follow the fricking rules. Pick up your fricking trash. Please don't boo our team. See ya.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:18 am to BooBoo
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If it's a temporary fence, what's to stop the fans from taking it down?
I would thoroughly enjoy watching the arrests that resulted, followed by screams of "I pay for LSU tickets! I do what I want! I pay my taxes! I do what I want!"
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:20 am to Catman88
Just to play devil's advocate.
Yes, I do agree. Show me the proof that this is wrong...show me the proof. Until then I think this statement is entirely correct...I want to see the academic article that shows that lawnmowers on this mound are more hurtful than kids...
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Apparently the only argument for saving the mounds is to act like a retard and to believe that a 30 pound kid causes more dammage than a 1000 pound lawnmower or a hydrolic post gived into the mound to take a soil sample.
Yes, I do agree. Show me the proof that this is wrong...show me the proof. Until then I think this statement is entirely correct...I want to see the academic article that shows that lawnmowers on this mound are more hurtful than kids...
This post was edited on 10/1/10 at 10:21 am
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:21 am to booga
Have you missed all the links provided in the past where SCIENTIST have admitted they do not think it was used as a burial site? Where SCIENTIST gave alternate reasonings for the mounds?
Are were you just too busy calling the people that posted these links rednecks?
My problem is that people are actually blaming the kids on slides for the dammage. But look the other way when a 1000 pound + tractor runs over it. The same people dig holes into the mounds and talk about excavating it. Yet they want to preserve it. Their own curiousity caused more harm than the little kids. But do they add themselves to the blame when the mounds are seeing dammage? Nope.
Are were you just too busy calling the people that posted these links rednecks?
My problem is that people are actually blaming the kids on slides for the dammage. But look the other way when a 1000 pound + tractor runs over it. The same people dig holes into the mounds and talk about excavating it. Yet they want to preserve it. Their own curiousity caused more harm than the little kids. But do they add themselves to the blame when the mounds are seeing dammage? Nope.
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:23 am to Catman88
Do children sliding down an Indian mound stand a very strong chance of learning something about a 6000 year old culture?
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:23 am to booga
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want to see the academic article that shows that lawnmowers on this mound are more hurtful than kids
I can show you a few aricles that claim the kids are hurtful but mention nothing else as a cause. Does that count?
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:26 am to YellowShoe
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Sliding on Indian Mounds is a tradition passed on by families - where?
I did it when I was a kid. My boys are now 6 and 8 years old and they love to do it. Sounds like a tradition passed down.
The cries of kids tearing up the mounds is ridiculous. To people saying, "It's LSU's property, they can do what they want." Well I say, "It's Les Miles team, he can play whatever QB he wants." So why do we have this site? Why do we discuss Les Miles' team?
This post was edited on 10/1/10 at 10:27 am
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:26 am to harper6464
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Do children sliding down an Indian mound stand a very strong chance of learning something about a 6000 year old culture?
Oh so learning something about a 6000 year old culture is more important than what they left behind huh?
How many artifacts of ancient history have been destroyed by mans own greed? Were the pyramids better off before people started to excavate them?
What do we gain by knowing what the mounds were used for if in the process of finding out we destroy them? Is that net gain worth more than what was destroyed?
Posted on 10/1/10 at 10:28 am to Catman88
Does the article say anything about the potential impact of cumulative retard weight and how thats completely different than a lawnmower for 5 minutes once a week for 8 months of the year or 1000 lb machine for a day once every 10 years?
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