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re: In Defense of Paul Mainieri
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:45 am to TIGERSby10
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:45 am to TIGERSby10
To stay on topic, if you think PM doesn't make some bonehead decisions when it comes to baseball strategy (leaving in a pitcher to long/taking him out early, double steals when unnecessary, hit and running himself out of innings when the team was getting hot with the bat, bad lineups that are defensive oriented when you need offense or vice versa when needing to protect a lead, etc., etc., etc.) then you are the one that doesn't know baseball. He may be the worst coach I've ever seen at any level when it comes to baseball strategy. This isn't hindsight is 20/20, it's just common sense, which PM doesn't have.
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:48 am to TIGERSby10
I think when you have nothing to lose and everything to gain you make some risky decisions to make some things happen. You can’t look at a bad year and make a statement like “he has poor baseball strategy.” He’s one of the greatest to ever coach, that doesn’t happen overnight.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:54 am to Jambalaya Sauce
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He’s one of the greatest to ever coach, that doesn’t happen overnight
You have validated yourself as a troll. 100%
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:56 am to Jambalaya Sauce
That’s no defense, and I am a damn lawyer.
College athletics is about winning games and building a fan base to come to games buy merch and create revenue. Not what about what happened 10 or even 5 years ago. It’s not necessarily fair but that’s the way it is. (My step dad was a college coach and that’s what you sign up for .)
He hasn’t been winning at the traditional LSU standard for years while rivals have closed the gap and are succeeding. Vandy may even created a gap on us. Obviously, this makes the fan base nervous. Plus we were constantly told this one of most talented teams ever.
He can save his job the way all coaches can, by winning games. Advocacy at this point is a waste of time and effort
College athletics is about winning games and building a fan base to come to games buy merch and create revenue. Not what about what happened 10 or even 5 years ago. It’s not necessarily fair but that’s the way it is. (My step dad was a college coach and that’s what you sign up for .)
He hasn’t been winning at the traditional LSU standard for years while rivals have closed the gap and are succeeding. Vandy may even created a gap on us. Obviously, this makes the fan base nervous. Plus we were constantly told this one of most talented teams ever.
He can save his job the way all coaches can, by winning games. Advocacy at this point is a waste of time and effort
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 11:58 am
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:57 am to Jambalaya Sauce
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The game hasn't changed, fellas. It's baseball
Are you serious? The game hasn’t changed? It went from gorilla ball to small ball to no bunts at all in a matter of 20 years.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:01 pm to Jambalaya Sauce
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he man knows baseball more than anyone out there and, frankly with the way our fans are, we don't deserve him
I dont give a frick what he knows, I give a frick what he can teach and put into action in the form of wins.
He isnt getting it turned around. We shitty pitching yet prolly the best pitcher in the state this year is going to MSU, walker from barbe. Paul is getting outworked in recruiting and frankly is just coasting. He needs to retire or be fired if he refuses.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:01 pm to MONROE
You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:02 pm to TutHillTiger
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Vandy may even created a gap on us
MAY Have???? SHIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTT that gap is the size of the grand canyon right now.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:08 pm to Jambalaya Sauce
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It's baseball.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:10 pm to Jambalaya Sauce
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Mainieri (the winningest active coach in the NCAA)
Last time we had one of those, Title IX people went ape shite and the BOS wanted us to fire errybody.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 2:27 pm to Jambalaya Sauce
3 and 9 in the SEC from a man with soooo much knowledge and experience? Enough said, turn out the lights the PM era is over!!!
Posted on 4/13/21 at 2:35 pm to Jambalaya Sauce
Just another Paw baller.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 3:55 pm to Jambalaya Sauce
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The game hasn't changed, fellas. It's baseball.
This proves you do not know what the frick you are talking about...
Posted on 4/13/21 at 5:39 pm to Jambalaya Sauce
Okay Mrs Maineri
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:27 pm to Jambalaya Sauce
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2017 was only 4 years ago, big dawg. And you can hardly count 2020 as a season.
But we know what would've happened in the 2020 season because that team was worse than this one. So in the last 4 years Manieri is under 0.500 in the SEC and his one good claim is that he hosted a Super Regional in 2019 even though LSU wasn't a top 8 seed. But LSU was swept by Florida State in that Baton Rouge Super Regional. The year before LSU went to Oregon state for a regional and Oregon State fricking killed them. This year they probably won't even make the tourney. It's been a pathetic four years since 2017 and it shouldn't ever take LSU longer than 4 years to turn it around.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 2:30 am to Jambalaya Sauce
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Mainieri (the winningest active coach in the NCAA) is getting questioned by a bunch of guys that have no clue what they are talking about.
Why don't we know what we're talking about? Is baseball the new advanced algebra? Some of us know a lot about about baseball, and it doesn't take a genius to recognize certain problems.
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The man knows baseball more than anyone out there and, frankly with the way our fans are, we don't deserve him. The game hasn't changed, fellas. It's baseball. He'll get things turned around, trust me.
There is only so much to know about baseball. What does he know that we don't? I am always one to defer to coaches when it comes to handling a clubhouse/locker room, and dealing with internal issues and player scouting, because I don't know what goes on behind the scenes, and I don't recruit. Once the team is assembled, however, it's just baseball. Its a common sense game. And there is a tremendous amount of common sense MISSING from Mainieri's philosophy, in my opinion. No one said the game has changed (though philosophies certainly have). It's that he has changed. He wasn't always so stubborn, and he didn't always project such a negative image when we saw him in the dugout.
There is also the fact that Alan Dunn has frankly not done a good job for some time with the pitching staff. Every year, we walk the world, and few guys ever seem to improve from year 1. At least, not substantially to the point of becoming reliable options. That would certainly seem to indicate a change in pitching coaches is needed, but Mainieri keeps singing Dunn's praises. It's never a good sign when the head coach is too attached to his staff to make improvements. If Javy Sanchez hadn't left to pursue other interests, we'd probably still be having "fire Javy" threads.
The program is stale. Mainieri's track record is great. But this is now. Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno's once dominant programs dried up. Wayne Graham's Rice program dried up. Augie Garrido's Texas program became very average. Pick a sport, pick a head coach, there are plenty of examples of coaches and their programs running out of steam. They get behind the times with training philosophies or strategy; they run out of energy to recruit; they get too comfortable with assistants and refuse to fire them when change is needed, and they might also run out of patience and start brow beating their players instead of giving them a healthy balance of discipline/correction, diligent teaching and encouragement.
I'm not saying that all of these things apply to Mainieri, but I think a lot of them probably do, and the results speak for themselves.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 11:54 am to Jambalaya Sauce
Well Im sure some other program will be ecstatic to pick him up if he’s that great
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