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re: IMO Brandon Harris isn't bad

Posted on 3/7/16 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 8:27 pm to
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I think you need to go back and look at pass attempts in Arky and Ole Miss games. You do realize that you can look this shite up, right?


OK. But its different being down by 3 tds and passing compared to passing with the lead or a closer game....



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I swear its like our fans dont even watch the games


And there you go acting like a child AGAIN by thinking you are the only one that knows anything on here... I am really starting to think this going to Duke thing is bullshite... They don't let people with your low IQ in that place..............
Posted by chadr07
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 8:32 pm to
He's pretty good
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 8:50 pm to
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nd there you go acting like a child AGAIN by thinking you are the only one that knows anything on here.


Because you can easily look up facts before hand. If i have an opinion on something ill look for facts that prove my opinion to be bullshite or my opinion to be spot on.
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I am really starting to think this going to Duke thing is bullshite...

Get to the part where im supposed to care what an old drunk thinks.
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They don't let people with your low IQ in that place..............

The last time i took an iq test it was 136.
Your iq has nothing to do with being accepted at Duke.
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 9:05 pm to
With the offensive system and coaching he was set up to fail. Hopefully now things are changing but I'm not sure yet.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 11:27 pm to
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Justin McMillan was recruited before Harris


That's not what You said. You said Harris was the only QB we have recruited
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 6:48 am to
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ustin McMillan was recruited before Harris


That's not what You said. You said Harris was the only QB we have recruited




You literally quoted me in your post:

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Harris is literally the first QB recruited by Cam since Mett, so you're talking about 1 season. Derp.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:31 am to
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Wonder why you didn't go with these:



Because those include special team scores and also are a function of field position, which the offense is indirectly responsible for. In other words, they aren't relevant.

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Since you're wanting to truly reach to find anything to support your argument (and you still can't), let us look at true efficiency statistics provided by Football Outsiders.


Yeah those are all rankings. If I was concerned with how LSU did against other teams, I would look at those. But since we are trying to establish, for the last time, that Harris was not materially better than Jennings, I'm not going to look at those.

It isn't that hard. Great work on those "advanced stats" by the way, and giving an explanation of why they are relevant. You might have missed that one stat that I posted that lsu gave up .1 yards per play more in 2014 than 2015 on defense. If your opponent runs 100 plays, that is 10 yards a game.

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And for fun, let's have back to this boom:


I addressed this. If you werent such a shitty poster, you might have noticed it in bold. All of those stats would have resulted in 13 yards more per game. You see what I did, was take nominal stats and project it to a meaningful number. That isn't reaching, that is using my fricking brain and not just looking at a list of rankings from year to year and saying "One has more momma can I have candy?"

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Keep relying on the wins argument (which still isn't true - hence you reaching all the way to SEC Standings and ignoring my other comments on it).



It is my argument, you fricking dipshit. I get to choose the premise. Let me make this simple for you. 2015, not much different than 2014. We wound up in 4th place in the West, where all opponents are common from year to year (in fact, we pretty much played our common opponents the exact same way, but swap blowouts to MS schools,and the abortion which was the Auburn game). We look at the stats, and we see, no, they really aren't materially different from one another. Which is reasonable, as the results on the field are not much different from year to year either. Case Closed. No, stop. That is my argument, there is no need to go any further.

You aren't answering the question. If you did, this would be over. Honestly, the only reason I am still participating is I am kind of amazed at how stupid you are, and you dont get to fight a Rantard trophy fish, such as yourself every day.


This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 7:35 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 7:48 am to
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Because those include special team scores and also are a function of field position, which the offense is indirectly responsible for. In other words, they aren't relevant. 




But special teams and field position don't have an impact on time of possession. TIL that points per game is irrelevant.

But hey, we held Ole Miss to 3/12 on 3rd down.


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It is my argument, you fricking dipshit. I get to choose the premise.


And I get to point out how retarded it is

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We wound up in 4th place in the West, where all opponents are common from year to year (in fact, we pretty much played our common opponents the exact same way, but swap blowouts to MS schools,and the abortion which was the Auburn game). 




So since this is your logic, I'm sure you normalized all stats for common opponents. Your logic isn't consistent, and that's because that extra loss destroys your "premise".

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Honestly, the only reason I am still participating is I am kind of amazed at how stupid you are, and you dont get to fight a Rantard trophy fish, such as yourself every day. 


You forgot a comma.

:lol: nice to see I've gotten so far under your skin. Keep these brilliant insults coming.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 9:47 am
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:43 am to
that still in no way changes the fact we have been woeful at recruiting QB's. My point still stands. We have not developed a serviceable QB in a while
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:48 am to
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that still in no way changes the fact we have been woeful at recruiting QB's.


I don't disagree with that, but your original post, in Brandon Harris thread, suggested that it has been a theme for Harris every year, when I don't think that is true. If he sucks this year, I think it would certainly be valid.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 8:52 am to
My premise was not just about Harris. It started with Jennings
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 8:53 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:10 am to
Yea, I get that now and agree with it, but that wasn't clear in your OP that originally just referenced "he" in a thread about Harris:

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Ever since Mett, it has been the same old song and dance, next year will be his year. Maybe we should develop a QB instead of wasting another year


Hence it not making sense.

I'm not ready to close the book on Harris, but he needs to produce this year. We should have a pretty damn good team on both sides of the ball to take the pressure off him.
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 9:20 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14570 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:10 am to
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Prove it. Seriously, I want to know what makes you think that our QB play put us in any better position to win in 2015 than 2014. Its easy just to drive by and discredit an opinion that you don't agree with. Look at what I actually posted. We put the game in Harris' hands after the loss to Bama, and were not even competitive in those games. We wanted to fire our coaches over it, but ironically, in those 2 games we actually deviated from our standard and were less competitive than we have ever been in Miles' tenure. Quit making excuses for the kid. If we are going to be critical of our players and staff, lets be consistent.

How competitive was the D in those games?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:18 am to
He addressed that while ignoring stats like PPG and Red Zone defense which we were absolutely horrible at last season.

We had way too many blown coverages last year. It was either or worst or second worst defense under Les IMO.

Furthermore, in SEC play (since we're going by SEC standings now as a measuring stick):

Harris vs Jennings
% = 55vs 48
Yards/game = 185 vs 110
TDs = 8 vs 5 (2 rushing TDs for Harris as well)
Ints = 5 vs 4
YPA = 7.3 vs 5.7
Rating 124 vs 101

So the statistical gap actually gets bigger in SEC play. Jennings went 6 straight SEC games (7 games including New Mexico State) without completing over 50% of his passes
This post was edited on 3/8/16 at 9:39 am
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 3/8/16 at 9:45 am to
I think having Cam on the sidelines will help in Harris' development. I just hope his developing happens fast.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4373 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:26 pm to
If he would have thrown another INT,your post would have been it was crazy for Coach to keep him throwing! Monday morning coaches stink up the rant !
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4373 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:27 pm to
If he would have thrown another INT,your post would have been it was crazy for Coach to keep him throwing! Monday morning coaches stink up the rant !
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204377 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:41 pm to
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I think having Cam on the sidelines will help in Harris' development



IMO this is vital....
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4373 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:52 pm to
are you sure you are a LSU fan !
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3948 posts
Posted on 3/8/16 at 6:25 pm to
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We put the game in Harris' hands after the loss to Bama, and were not even competitive in those games.


I'm curious to know if you are aware of what happened to Harris during the Alabama game? If so, you don't think that affected him at all?
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