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immobile qb who can pass, or dual threat who can't pass

Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:18 am
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13297 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:18 am
Which type of qb would you rather have? In the NFL, a immobile white guy impresses me more than dual threats. I would rather have a qb who can stand in the pocket and complete a good percentage of passes, than someone who can't pass and barely can run. Why don't we recruit better at qb?
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:22 am to
Is this a serious question?
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:23 am to
No such thing as a "dual threat" if he can't pass.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66372 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:28 am to
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Why don't we recruit better at qb?


There really aren't a lot of guys that meet your description.

the top 2 QBs in this draft will be Mariota (dual threat form hawaii) and Winston (dual threat form alabama)

Not a ton of high level pocket passers coming out of high school right now.


What i really want is QB that completely every throw and can rush for all the yards.

Why can't we recruit one of those?
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 1:30 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72026 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:31 am to
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dual threat who can't pass
If he can't pass, he isn't a dual threat.
Posted by Noon the Great
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
228 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 1:33 am to
Say what you want but, a offense designed to fit Brandon Harris would be very difficult to stop.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
13297 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:09 am to
I know our qb's aren't "real dual threats, but they and JJ were labeled as them. I would take a ZM any day over our last 3 dual threats. Why is it osu has luck with all their dual threats?
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10884 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:34 am to
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No such thing as a "dual threat" if he can't pass.

There have been very few true "Duel Threat Quarterbacks" that could run and pass equally well.

Manziel is one. You could probably put Tebow into that category.

Like we say frequently on here, there's no need to recruit a QB that can't throw a ball into Lake Pontchartrain while standing on the Causeway. We don't GAF how fast a QB can run. We'd much rather 5.2 40 Statues back there that can read defenses, go through progressions and deliver the football into the hands of our WR, TE's and RB's.

Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:14 am to
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Say what you want but, a offense designed to fit Brandon Harris would be very difficult to stop


If LSU's coaching staff would have focused on developing a legit spread attack with Harris and continued to using the power run game with Jennings we would be in the top four. Balance is what this offense is lacking and if Miles would have stuck to his "we need two qb's to win" mantra we would have that balance.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26620 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 5:56 am to
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I know our qb's aren't "real dual threats, but they and JJ were labeled as them


Jefferson was the 8th ranked pro style QB. Miles turned him into a running QB.

quote:

Why is it osu has luck with all their dual threats?


Don't know, but they have for years now even before Meyer got there. JT Barrett is the kind of dual threat I want though. Accurate passer that can also make things happen on the ground.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 5:57 am
Posted by andys4lsu
Vinton, LA
Member since Sep 2006
667 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:24 am to
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No such thing as a "dual threat" if he can't pass.


He's no threat if he doesn't run either.
Posted by Barry Badrinath
MISS'IPPI
Member since Mar 2008
6294 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:24 am to
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Jefferson was the 8th ranked pro style QB. Miles turned him into a running QB.


If my memory serves me correctly, JJ may have been a "pro-style" QB, but he played primarily like 90+% out of the gun in HS like most HS QBs this day and time.

And JJ never wowed me with his running ability. I can count on maybe one hand where he broke loose for huge gains and one of them was the TN game. I just think he was a mobile guy when he wanted to be, but that was not his strong suit.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36514 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:40 am to
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If LSU's coaching staff would have focused on developing a legit spread attack with Harris and continued to using the power run game with Jennings we would be in the top four.


Why would we need Jennings in the game to run a power running attack at all though?
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22504 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 6:45 am to
If take a big, slow, white dude anyday over what LSU has now. Especially for the offense LSU runs. Jennings and Harris are like trying to fit a square leg into a round whole.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:06 am to
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Why would we need Jennings in the game to run a power running attack at all though?


We don't! I was just going off of Miles's two qb system. This is the only way I see Jennings getting any playing time, because there is no way in hell he would be more efficient in a spread attack than Harris.
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:09 am to
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If take a big, slow, white dude anyday over what LSU has now.


Ohh ok skin color matters while playing qb

This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 7:10 am
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18134 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:36 am to
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a immobile white guy


Why is race relevant???
Posted by shaqtaw
Member since Oct 2009
4970 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:37 am to
We don't need a dual threat QB. We need a QB that pass the ball and occasionally scramble when the protection breaks down.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83525 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:37 am to
what a retarded question
Posted by pabgolf
baton rouge
Member since Dec 2009
1901 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 7:45 am to
The true definition according to past NFL quarterback of dual threat quarterback is "inaccurate passer". That is why they become dual threat, more athletic and able to do things with their feet better than with their arm.

They should be able to hit wide open receivers and throw the 15-20 yard pass somewhat accurately.
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