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re: Imagine if LSU-Ala or any SEC game ended the same way Wisc-Arizona State ended
Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:56 pm to omegaman66
Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:56 pm to omegaman66
Are you dense? Look at the pic?
Furthermore, if he spikes it, the spot goes back to the right hash. Seeing as how the whole point of the play was for him to run to the center of the field and KNEEL so the kicker has a straight on kick, then spiking it would be fairly stupid at that point.
Anyone who thinks a team can't run two plays to get the ball to the center of the field and then spike it, all in 18 seconds doesn't watch a lot of football.
Furthermore, if he spikes it, the spot goes back to the right hash. Seeing as how the whole point of the play was for him to run to the center of the field and KNEEL so the kicker has a straight on kick, then spiking it would be fairly stupid at that point.
Anyone who thinks a team can't run two plays to get the ball to the center of the field and then spike it, all in 18 seconds doesn't watch a lot of football.
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Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:57 pm to omegaman66
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Do you call kneeling when your knee doesn't get anywhere close to the ground. He did not take a knee. He set the ball down and walked away.
derp derp derp
Posted on 9/16/13 at 9:58 pm to SportTiger1
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ETA. It doesnt even matter at that point. The ref blew the whistle because he thought his knee touched. Everything past that point = complete screw up.
+1000
This guy gets it.
Otherwise, a lot of fail in this thread.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:00 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I still can't see the knee in the video touch the ground. I see it now in the still shot.
Refs messed up. And they NORMALLY do in this situation. I regularly see delay of game not called when the defense kick the ball or lay on rb's etc. If you are a coach or a player and you expect the refs to get that right you are stupid.
No reason to leave the balance of the game in the refs hands when you know they are more times than not going to screw it up.
Refs messed up. And they NORMALLY do in this situation. I regularly see delay of game not called when the defense kick the ball or lay on rb's etc. If you are a coach or a player and you expect the refs to get that right you are stupid.
No reason to leave the balance of the game in the refs hands when you know they are more times than not going to screw it up.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:00 pm to Pauldean
The fact that so many in this thread think its the QBs fault baffles me. The refs even issued an apology today, that should tell you something.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:03 pm to omegaman66
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No reason to leave the balance of the game in the refs hands when you know they are more times than not going to screw it up.
So moving the ball to the middle of the field with 20 ( I repeat, 20) seconds left is stupid? El oh el
We depend on the refs to make obvious calls, nothing more. That is their whole role in football.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:03 pm to SportTiger1
Did the apology include an "if the quarterback had knelt a little more convincingly" clause??
J/K. Just as baffled as you.
J/K. Just as baffled as you.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:05 pm to SportTiger1
Maybe I'm off here but they had 15 seconds left and no timeouts and decided to center the ball? Not saying the refs didn't screw up but that's a shite call especially on a chip shot FG.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:08 pm to drexyl
I dont know...thats like saying the coaches should expect the refs to not stop the clock on a spike?
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:10 pm to drexyl
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Maybe I'm off here but they had 15 seconds left and no timeouts and decided to center the ball? Not saying the refs didn't screw up but that's a shite call especially on a chip shot FG.
My thinking as well. However, the Badgers kicker has missed both a FG and an XP this year.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:12 pm to HailToTheChiz
quote:thats why I say I might be off on my understanding. This seems like a rarely used play (the I give up play). Is the clock supposed to stop or is it just like a running play where it keeps running?
HailToTheChiz Imagine if LSU-Ala or any SEC game ended the same way Wisc-Arizona State ended I dont know...thats like saying the coaches should expect the refs to not stop the clock on a spike?
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:14 pm to drexyl
running play...their next play was to spike the ball and stop the clock then kick the field goal
so i believe it was only 2nd down when this shite hit the fan
so i believe it was only 2nd down when this shite hit the fan
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:16 pm to mdtiger1
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Well, genius, it WAS a live ball was it not? THe clock ran out. If the ball is on the ground it is a fumble in any other scrimmage play unless it is a kick or a pass then the kick is still live or the pass is incomplete and dead. You don't have a clue - read the rule book. A ball on a running play not in player possession is live, hence the clock runs. Rule 2 of the NCAA playbook would help all of you if you can comprehend. That is "definitions" of what a live ball is as it pertains to player possession. A fumble is a live ball not in player possession! Of course, you may continue to comment without knowledge.
ball on the ground while in possession is dead ball. you can do a handspring on the 1 yd line and land in the endzone, touching only the ball to the ground... dead ball where the ball touched.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:21 pm to drexyl
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This seems like a rarely used play (the I give up play).
You've never seen a QB take a knee?
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:22 pm to DrD
The qb had time to spike the ball with time still left on the clock. Had he spiked it they could have kicked a field goal. Instead, he argued with the ref and let the clock run out.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:23 pm to drexyl
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thats why I say I might be off on my understanding. This seems like a rarely used play (the I give up play). Is the clock supposed to stop or is it just like a running play where it keeps running?
Do you even watch football?
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:25 pm to T
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he argued with the ref and let the clock run out
So the ball was set for play while he was arguing with the ref?
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:27 pm to T
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The qb had time to spike the ball with time still left on the clock. Had he spiked it they could have kicked a field goal. Instead, he argued with the ref and let the clock run out.
actually the d lineman argued with the ref about whether it was a fumble, ref never moved off the ball to let him spike it...
plus they let the clock run down 20 SECONDS without letting them go forward
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:34 pm to SoulGlo
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ball on the ground while in possession is dead ball. you can do a handspring on the 1 yd line and land in the endzone, touching only the ball to the ground... dead ball where the ball touched.
This isn't true or the Stoerner play never would have happened.
But it doesn't matter because it has nothing to do with this play anyway. Qb kneeled. Ref blew whistle. Play was dead.
Posted on 9/16/13 at 10:40 pm to HailToTheChiz
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plus they let the clock run down 20 SECONDS without letting them go forward
Not really.
Plus In real time it looked like his lineman bumped into him and he just set the ball down. Who actually thought he kneeled if you saw that live?
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