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re: I’m not giving up on MM

Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:48 am to
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11979 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:48 am to
quote:

The narrative is that we dumped Wade to avoid sanctions... so does that mean Woodward screwed that up too?




What difference would "Sanctions" have made?
Miss the tournament for a couple of years?
When is this team going to a tournament?
When is this team going to have a winning SEC season?
When will it win another SEC game?Ole Miss?
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6282 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:57 am to
In his defense, the whole team essentially transferred out when he got here. He had to assemble a whole new team in a few months. You can't get good results having to do that.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14493 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:49 am to
Well, he's not getting fired this year, and he's my coach and I'll give him the benefit of the doubt while at the same time having many concerns.

At the beginning of the year almost unanimously we gave him kudos for cobbling together what looked like a serviceable team that at the very least would not embarrass themselves in the SEC. That sentiment was shared by most analysts of the sport, being picked to finish anywhere from 8th to 10th in the SEC and honestly more on the high side of that.

Now the debate is whether or not that evaluation was bad and the talent was/is much worse than thought, or there have been some growing pains for a coach at this level and this team is regressing as the year evolves.

I think it's a bit of both and we can debate the degree to which one is more accurate than the other.

So now we are left to hope he learns and improves as a coach at this level. That some of the players he gets back next year develop and improve and he evaluates talent better and gets some folks in the portal with some upside and recruits that can come in and help immediately.

That's my hope. I do want him to succeed.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35393 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:34 am to
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Oh no, you misunderstand.

He didn’t think days should go pro. He thought days should’ve transferred to a different school.
Well yes, that was the year before last. I think everyone would agree that going pro in 2021 would have been a bad decision. As to him transferring to another team, I felt he would benefit most from another team that would feature him more as a scorer, and not a 3 point specialist. A different coach who could improve his game. The slip screens he was getting at the end of last year should have been the type of plays he should have been given all along.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7272 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:07 pm to
The idea of Having to construct an ENTIRE team out of thin air has eluded most ranters. That being said, there doesn’t seem to be a lot of adjustments during the losing streak.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
5298 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:08 pm to
Same
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37061 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:16 pm to
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The idea of Having to construct an ENTIRE team out of thin air has eluded most ranters.
This is not true. Posters are aware of the situation, but also understand it wasn't some walk-on tryouts either.

We had multiple players return from last years team and Coach Mc brought 3 of his own from last years Murray St team and also stated he could have brought more.

We're not playing the Tuba Section.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:29 pm to
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As to him transferring to another team, I felt he would benefit most from another team that would feature him more as a scorer, and not a 3 point specialist.

And that’s why you’re an idiot that should never be taken seriously on any topic.

After 3 years learning wade’s system and establishing himself at lsu while never being more than #4 scoring option due to other, more talented scorers also on the roster, days was entering last season as the most experienced player, undisputed #1 option, and clear leader of the team.

And you thought the best thing for him would’ve been to leave that situation. fricking moron
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7272 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:38 pm to
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We had multiple players return from last years team


How many minutes per game did those players play last year?
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37061 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:51 pm to
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How many minutes per game did those players play last year?
I hope you're not going to try to cherry pick one aspect to prove a larger argument.

However, the truth is Mwani played the most minutes by a wide margin and is injured. Williams saw action and Miller was out the entire year, but would have played a lot.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7272 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:36 pm to
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I hope you're not going to try to cherry pick one aspect to prove a larger argument.


I would argue having almost zero minutes returning from last year is not cherry picking. Doesn’t mean I think the guy is a good coach..but it’s worth noting.
Posted by jmays68
Member since Jan 2023
34 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:44 pm to
He has an eight year contract with a good buyout. Scotty knew that this was a train wreck and going to be some time. Give him some time he’ll turn it around
Posted by jmays68
Member since Jan 2023
34 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41170 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:51 pm to
Calm down, Mrs. McMahon.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37061 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

I would argue having almost zero minutes returning from last year is not cherry picking. Doesn’t mean I think the guy is a good coach..but it’s worth noting.
That’s cool and don’t disagree. I was mostly trying to address the narrative that we started from nothing. It’s technically accurate at a time, but not honest.

Now, if he didn’t get KJ for reference, I would agree. But it’s not truthful to say we started from scratch with no chance to assemble a team.
Posted by PNG Futbol
Member since Aug 2022
480 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:01 pm to
He is going to get some time. Woodward isn't going to can his choice after a few years unless a cause occurs.

But to say he will turn it around is unproven at this point. Time will tell.
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41170 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Woodward isn't going to can his choice after a few years unless a cause occurs.


It is beCAUSE he keeps losing by 20.
Posted by VeryReauxna_ish
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2020
2014 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:06 pm to
Scott Drew’s Baylor teams were pretty awful his first 3 years at Baylor. It worked out for them, eventually.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37061 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:09 pm to
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It is beCAUSE he keeps losing by 20.
Yesterday's loss was by far the worst for me.

We weren't even playing a good team. And not at full strength. And we were at home. Sometimes I can hyperbole, but that was one of the most disappointing losses. It's not like we're playing for higher stakes as in past years, we were playing to survive and we outright looked dumbfounded.
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41170 posts
Posted on 1/29/23 at 2:16 pm to
I haven’t seen anything so far to make me think it’ll get better next year. It’s a pretty terrible feeling TBH.
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