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re: I'm a LSU fan and I'm saying we are the biggest bunch of crybabies in CFB

Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:36 am to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:36 am to
I haven't defended O what I posted was that fans need to stop the apocalypse talk and start trying to be positive for our players sake. Theyre are the ones that read this shite and they're the ones who talk to the younger kids that go to school now where they went to school. We all know O is messing up but being 100% negative about everything including hoping we lose does nothing but hurt the program. That doesn't mean be positive about Ogeron.
This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 1:37 am
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:36 am to
Right? Didn't miss a beat.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:37 am to
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Lmfao that's 100% false every single syllable of it.


You said O was a good hire. You supported Alleva's crazy idea of propping O up with good coordinators as some kind of great new approach.

You defended Alleva and said we were better off without Herman or Jimbo. You even defended the fricked up buyout.

You are clueless!
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:38 am to
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start trying to be positive for our players sake


I am.


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Theyre are the ones that read this shite and they're the ones who talk to the younger kids that go to school now where they went to school


They also see and hear things behind the scenes we don't know about, which is going on, i.e. the tussle between O and Canada. If the head coach is almost literally coming to blows with his OC, what sort of impression does that leave on said HC's players?

He's over his head and not the man for the job.


Again, I'm behind the players 100% but O can't leave soon enough. He's hurt this program so fast, it's mind boggling.
This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 1:40 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:39 am to
No that's not true maybe it was their plan but they had no control over what happened. Alleva and King cost us sure things and they had no backup plan after that.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:40 am to
Well if what they hear we don't know about how do you know it's negative stuff? Players have defended him to the point of fighting with fans over it.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:40 am to
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Alleva and King cost us sure things and they had no backup plan after that.




So whose fault is that?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47545 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:41 am to
Lmfao lmfao that is a complete made up lie. You're pathetic. Even when I had optimism for O always maintained I was against the hire.
This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 1:42 am
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:42 am to
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Well if what they hear we don't know about how do you know it's negative stuff? Players have defended him to the point of fighting with fans over it.




Omg come on. He's blamed everyone BUT himself so far this season. You really think it's something positive?

This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 1:43 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47545 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:43 am to
From your repost I would think that's self explanatory.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:43 am to
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From your repost I would think that's self explanatory.



Explain.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47545 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:44 am to
I don't get where you guys are getting this from. Every single interview I've herd with O the first thing he says is "it's my fault I'm responsible". Literally every single time he's interviewed about the problems that's what he starts with.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47545 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:46 am to
Alleva and King that's who's fault it is. Alleva nearly lost Aranda too the week of Florida last season. He's not well connected enough in football circles to wheel and deal in that world and Alexander is a cheap rotten piece of trash who's by far the bigger problem.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:47 am to
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fans need to stop the apocalypse talk and start trying to be positive for our players sake

I'm totally behind the players, but have you not seen them quit?

I'm not trying to be negative just for the sake of bitching, but I haven't seen anything that tells me they trust the coaches over the last few weeks. Their effort has shown that.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:47 am to
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but they had no control over what happened



O campaigned for the Job. O after putting Alleva's feet to the fire, put in a horrendous buyout clause. O was in control of this whole process because he is a master used car salesmen that even convinced the President of LSU to get behind him. O even made political alliances with a few members of the BOs. Alleva and King were in total control still but they bought into O's bs. Why you think the majority of the season ticket holders want Alleva and King fired? because both of these men got sold by a coach that went 10-25 at LSU's oldest SEC rival. They sold their creditability and possible future at the school down the drain. And after the slightest pushback they received from fisher and herman they made an impulse buy. you mean to tell me Alleva only had 2 other names on his list? What's more frustrating to me is why was O even on the short list to begin with? No program had O on any of their lists. Even FCS schools. That's why I cannot stand Alleva and King. They gave LSU a self-induced death-penalty.
This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 1:51 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47545 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:49 am to
Honestly on offense I haven't and with the defense it's hard to tell if they're quitting or tired because of depth issues up front. So you could be right but I can't say for sure.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:50 am to
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I don't get where you guys are getting this from.


He says "it's on me, I'm the head coach" but in the same sentence he says, "we have to get better at the point of attack, we have to block better, we have to have better calls on offense. ( all of this is pointed at his players and his OC, his OL coach, WR coach).

Then there's the thing between him and Canada, yes it happened, no it didn't, but there's obviously tension there.


"How did Canada react when you got involved in the offense?"

I'm the head coach.

Seriously?


"We don't have a kicker, we'll recruit some." For real? This is ok for a head coach to publicly say at his own radio show? So now he's throwing his kickers under the bus.

He's the head coach, it all starts there. I understand that little disagreements will happen but when you have players on Twitter lashing out saying "let's fight" and so forth, something is amiss.


And then look at our current record. The guy doesn't know what he's doing and he's a hothead to boot.

The wheels have come off.
This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 1:57 am
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43891 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:50 am to
the players quit in two games this season. I am behind these guys but come on please don't quit on the program and the fans.
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:50 am to
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Alleva and King that's who's fault it is.


Right. So why are you defending this hire thanks to them?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47545 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 1:57 am to
Ok that's not what happened with Fisher and Herman as far as the other stuff I haven't herd that and I have ears in the circle. Herman was contacted after the wisky game last season and was in as long as nothing leaked. He didn't want distractions while at Houston and Houston wanted Herman to pretend he wasn't leaving so that the big 12 would maybe add them to their conference. Herman had some loyalty to Houston also and Alleva and comp agreed to stay low pro. Strike 1 was firing Miles that brought attention directly to Herman about the LSU job and Alleva said he would wait until after the season to do it. Strike 2 was the week of Florida Arandas agent came in to meet with Aranda supposedly a common thing just to talk like any other year. Alleva tried to stop the meeting and told Aranda he couldn't have it lol. Aranda nearly left because of this shite and Herman of course knew about it. Strike 3 Alleva starts to leak the story as reported by ESPN that Herman will take the LSU job and that was it he was out. He saw that Alleva is messy and untrustworthy and wasn't going to come to a place like this.
This post was edited on 10/7/17 at 2:02 am
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