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re: If you don’t think the scheduling is biased, check out next years

Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:45 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:45 am to
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This isn't a conspiracy

Don't you know this is the rant where everything is a conspiracy
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1635 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:46 am to
It has panned out very very well for bama.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:47 am to
my god who cares about bama jesus Christ.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68602 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:48 am to
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Last season Alabama's two East teams went a combined 13-12, neither finishing ranked. LSU's East division opponents finished a combined 21-6, both teams ended up ranked in the top 10.

And in 2017 LSU's East teams finished a combined 8-15, including Tennessee who was winless in the SEC. Our best OOC game was 4-8 BYU. Was that SEC bias too?
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 10:49 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:52 am to
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We are on a rotation. Bridge scheduling isn't a thing anymore

Dude, you don't have to tell me this shite, I know it. I'm pointing out what a miserable schedule they have. The fact is that if they would drop that permanent East rivalry bullshite, they would rotate more quality teams on their schedule more often. We could at least go to a 9 game SEC schedule to help with that. But Saban is for keeping Tennessee as a permanent rival, and is against a 9 game SEC sched. Wonder why...
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historically they're the second strongest program in the conference

Yeah, and historically, Yale has more national championships than anyone else.
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There is no scheduling bias

As long as UT is their permanent rival, there most certainly IS a scheduling bias.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107271 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:52 am to
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You bitch about Bama having Tennessee, Tennessee used to be a fuggin badass.




Yeah, they haven't been since Bama declared that the most sacrosanct game on their schedule, though.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68602 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:55 am to
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they haven't been since Bama declared that the most sacrosanct game on their schedule, though

Tennessee has been a permanent team for Alabama since the SEC had set schedules in 1992.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47221 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:56 am to
I'm pretty sure all teams in the SEC will finally have played the 6 non-permanent opponents from the opposite division in 2019. Due to the bridge schedule, I believe each team has played 2 teams from the opposing division twice up to this point.

Bama got Missouri and Kentucky twice.

This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68602 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:57 am to
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But Saban is for keeping Tennessee as a permanent rival, and is against a 9 game SEC sched. Wonder why...

Actually Saban is the only coach in the SEC pushing for a 9 game SE schedule. It's everyone else that has voted against it.

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“I think that somebody needs to step up in college football and get ahead of dwindling attendance, people not coming to games -- too many games that people are not interested in,” Saban said on First Take. “I think every player in the SEC should play every team in the SEC in their career and right now we don’t do that since we expanded to 14 teams and we only play eight SEC games. I’ve been for that for a long time. “But I’m also for playing every game as a Power 5 game. So, you play nine or 10 games in the SEC and you play two other Power 5 schools, so when people go to buy tickets and pay premium for all of that, they’re not seeing Division II schools. They’re seeing, ‘Oh, we're playing five SEC schools and Oklahoma this year at home.’ I think it’s a good thing for college football. It’s a good thing."
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9160 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:58 am to
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and is against a 9 game SEC sched

Saban has said he is in favor of a 9 game schedule. Some of you just make up shite to post.

Google is your friend.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 10:59 am to
“ there is no scheduling bias”

If you don’t think the 2013 SEC bridge schedule didn’t tick all the bias blocks, I don’t know what I can tell you.

Is it rampant? No, but there is certainly good reasons to suggest that it exist. imo
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68602 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:01 am to
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Yeah, and historically, Yale has more national championships than anyone else.

Is this the best you can do? Were you up in arms about the SEC giving us a cake schedule with UT and Florida in 2017, since we are evaluating how easy schedules are on a yearly basis. Florida went 4-7 and Tennessee 4-8 in 2017 when both were on our schedule. And our OOC schedule was a joke. I guess it was the SEC office that caused LSU to lose 3 games with that cake schedule.
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As long as UT is their permanent rival, there most certainly IS a scheduling bias.

why?
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 11:02 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47221 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:01 am to
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If you don’t think the 2013 SEC bridge schedule didn’t tick all the bias blocks, I don’t know what I can tell you.


The bridge schedule was certainly kind to Alabama. 5 of their 7 rotating games came against Vanderbilt, Missouri and Kentucky.
Posted by root canal
West Monroe
Member since Dec 2007
1130 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:05 am to
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Tennessee used to be a fuggin badass Yeah 2 decades ago. Do they not check the scheduling in 20 years?


Correct. Florida was better than Tennessee in the 90's. Peyton Manning was 0-3 against Danny Wuerffel. (0-4 if you count the Saints win over Indy.)

The fact is that since Spurrier arrived in Gainsville almost 30 years ago, Florida has been significantly better than Tenn. Therefore, LSU has played a significantly harder team every year than Bama from the east.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:06 am to
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Check out their OOC schedule, too. The joke is still ongoing...one of the longest jokes I've ever heard.


Stop with all the bitching about Bama. Bama's OOC schedule the last few years included, Louisville, FSU, and USC.

We look like little kids crying because big brother "is cheating". There is no cheating. LSU just hasn't been good enough to beat Bama recently. Hopefully CEO will change that next year.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:10 am to
Can we all just understand how this works before saying it's bias. There's a rotating schedule that's set.

It's not bias but yes there can be disadvantages to certain teams if the rotational opponent is a tough one. For example LSU got UGA in 2018 and Florida is our every year opponent so it sucked.

LINK

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The SEC method of rotating schedules means that all schedules are not equal. Although Tennessee has not been competitive as Saban has run up an 11-0 record against the Vols while at Alabama, Tennessee historically has been the strongest football team in the SEC among East Division schools. Each year Auburn has Georgia as its regular opponent from the East and LSU has Florida.


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Obviously, if a team is facing a strong opponent as its regular interdivision rival and also draws a strong opponent on the rotating basis, it can be at a disadvantage.
For instance, this year LSU has Georgia as its rotating opponent while Alabama has Missouri, which looks like an advantage for Bama. In 2020 when Alabama plays Georgia, Auburn will be playing Kentucky, which looks like an advantage for Auburn.



ETA: and as far as bye weeks go they are dependent on which ooc teams the university schedules. So there's much more to it than the SEC office just picking dates for teams.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 11:32 am
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
7841 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:11 am to
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Bridge scheduling isn't a thing anymore.


For the most part that's true. But it is interesting that since bridge scheduling began in 2012 we have played Georgia twice and South Carolina twice, but have yet to play Vanderbilt! Just seems a little odd how that worked out.
Posted by SwampManiac
Quito, Ecuador
Member since Jul 2013
1766 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:14 am to
A&M bye week is sensitivity training for boy only cheerleader squad
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:32 am to
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Is this the best you can do?

No.

Since 1970, Tennessee is 6th in conference win% and have a worse win% vs Bama than Auburn or LSU.
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Were you up in arms about the SEC giving us a cake schedule with UT and Florida in 2017

No, and I'm not up in arms now, just pointing out the bias in scheduling.
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As long as UT is their permanent rival, there most certainly IS a scheduling bias.

why?

By the very definition of "Bias":

prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group

Alabama's East schedule is biased towards Tennessee, while LSU's is biased towards Florida. Get rid of the permanent opponents, and you get rid of the bias. There is no objective reason Tennessee is always on Alabama's schedule, they simply choose to have them on the schedule - for whatever reason.

Look at this home schedule for Alabama's 2019 season:

vs New Mexico State
vs Southern Mississippi
vs Ole Miss
vs Tennessee
vs Arkansas
vs LSU
vs Western Carolina

I'd be pissed if I paid bought season tickets for that line up for a national title contender.
Posted by OppositeMan
Member since Apr 2018
1853 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:32 am to
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Not sure why we pretend Alabama hasn't typically scheduled good OOC games.


I'm not pretending anything. This thread's about next year's schedule, and bama's OOC is an enormous joke.

Feel free to argue otherwise.
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