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re: If you aren't fired up about LSU/aTm...

Posted on 12/4/10 at 10:43 am to
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2005
5616 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 10:43 am to
It's a very regional game that will have no national interest. Rather play Michigan State in the Cap One. No one gives a rats tail about A&M. Strange school, strange alumni and fans!
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 11:08 am to
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It's not. We know this firsthand. Let's move on.

you obviously do not follow college football then. $4.675 million > $3.4? Only dumbass people who do not realize the Cotton declined from what it used to be would make such statement or Big 12 people. The Cotton is trash now.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26395 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 11:13 am to
Either

A) You are blatantly ignoring the facts

OR

B) You flat out aren't reading the facts that have been given to you numerous times by various posters


Cap1 payout is $4.25 million. Cotton is $3.6 million. And the payout is immaterial anyway, as it pertains to LSU. Both bowls give the exact same amount of money to LSU.

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The clear financial favorite seems to be the Capital One Bowl, with a sleek payout of $4.3 million, slightly ahead of the $3.6 million from the Cotton Bowl. But payouts are often misconstrued, as total revenue from all the SEC bowl games is totaled and then redistributed.

"All the money goes to the conference," Ausberry said. "There is no difference in money. People get caught up in that too much. Most people think it's more money."



And you're argument that the Cotton Bowl is a shitty bowl is just a bad one. Even proponents of the Cap1 will concede that the Cotton Bowl is a very good bowl, and arguably a historic better bowl than the Cap1.
This post was edited on 12/4/10 at 11:15 am
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16204 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 11:17 am to
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Only dumbass people who do not realize the Cotton declined from what it used to be would make such statement or Big 12 people. The Cotton is trash now.


Hmmm, one is played in an old, decrepit, shite of a stadium in the projects, while the other is played in the nicest stadium in the United States. Tell me how the Cotton is trash again.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 11:18 am to
LSU vs aTm is old Skule baby! Get ready for a war Aggies.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15948 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 12:47 pm to
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It's a very regional game that will have no national interest. Rather play Michigan State in the Cap One. No one gives a rats tail about A&M. Strange school, strange alumni and fans!


How does playing a basketball school who has been way more irrelevant in football than A&M in recent decades generate more national interest? Michigan State is another Big Ten school (like Iowa, Illinois, Purdue) who overachieves every once in a while before they slip back into mediocrity.

Plus the Cotton Bowl is on a Friday night in primetime this year. That means more eyes on us playing a traditional rival, in a traditional bowl game in the best stadium in the country. Even if you think the Aggies are trash, our name still carries weight nationally. I don't see any appeal in going back to Orlando.
Posted by Machiavellian
Member since Oct 2010
214 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 12:51 pm to
I'm more fired up about LSU playing in the best game. IMO the Cap1 Bowl against a 10-1 Big Ten is the best game

TAMU shouldnt even be in the Cotton Bowl..the #2 Big 12 team should be, which is Oklahoma St. or the loser of OU/Nebraska

Only reason TAMU is in Cotton Bowl is because of greed by the bowl committee. They know Ags fans are clamoring to get back into a good bowl to travel and spend $$$
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 12:53 pm to
Little to gain and much to lose for LSU...
Posted by Goose
Member since Jan 2005
22277 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 12:57 pm to
Sorry, but i would have rather played Nebraska in the Cotton Bowl to try and break our 0-4 against them. Plus i feel like they (or Oklahoma) are a bigger name in College Football.
Posted by Machiavellian
Member since Oct 2010
214 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 1:03 pm to
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Little to gain and much to lose for LSU


if LSU loses to a A&M team that doesn't even really belong in the Cotton Bowl then we risk some recruiting consequences, especially in the Houston area

But if we were to lose to a 10-1 Michigan St team, say, in the Cap 1 Bowl...then you at least lost to probably a Top 5 team..and Michigan St losses won't hurt your recruiting

We do have much more to lose against the Ags - none more than waking up a sleeping power in a year when Texas is way down.. if TAMU beats OU, Neb, TX and LSU to close the season it could really jump-start that program
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15948 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 1:05 pm to
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TAMU shouldnt even be in the Cotton Bowl..the #2 Big 12 team should be, which is Oklahoma St. or the loser of OU/Nebraska


I don't know why they shouldn't be there. They beat OU and Nebraska and finished tied for 1st in the South with OU and OkSt. Only reason A&M is not playing tonight is b/c of BCS standings.

IMO, A&M is a better team than Mich St right now anyway. Take a quick look at the Spartans schedule and prepare to be underwhelmed. One good home win vs Wisconsin early in the season doesn't justfy the puffery of their record.
Posted by Machiavellian
Member since Oct 2010
214 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 1:09 pm to
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I don't know why they shouldn't be there. They beat OU and Nebraska and finished tied for 1st in the South with OU and OkSt. Only reason A&M is not playing tonight is b/c of BCS standings.


How could you not say Oklahoma St?

They have a better record than TAMU, beat TAMU head-to-head, are ranked higher than TAMU nationally, etc..

If you are saying the Cotton Bowl is the most prestigious bowl game for the Big 12 conference aside from their BCS auto-bid, then how could you NOT put Ok. State in?
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46644 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 1:12 pm to
or just not old as shite
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15948 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 1:16 pm to
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How could you not say Oklahoma St?


I'm not saying Ok St didn't deserve the bid, all I was saying was that A&M had a case to be there themselves. Besides, Ok St was in the Cotton Bowl last season. They got picked over the same way the Capital 1 probably wants to pick Bama over us.
Posted by Machiavellian
Member since Oct 2010
214 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 1:19 pm to
no doubt what occurred. But just another example of bowls doing the same old bullshite to make the most $$$ - over having the best teams that deserve to be there

This whole "TAMU had a case" bullshite is just that

it's all about $
This post was edited on 12/4/10 at 1:21 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15948 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 1:34 pm to
It absolutely is about money, but I think you're putting too much on which is a 'better' bowl game. While there are guidelines for bowl selection, the bowls aren't obligated to follow any official rules.

Bowls know that, unless it's a BCS bowl, it's going to be harder to attract fans bringing the almighty $ to games if they keep going back to the same bowl, regardless of whether the team deserves it or not. Speaking personally, going back to Orlando for a second straight year and the 3rd time in 7 years makes me want to pass on going. I'd rather spend my money elsewhere now.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37835 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 2:09 pm to
Anyone who's been to the shithole they call Kyle Field in College Station is enough for any reasonable person to absolutely fricking hate TAMU.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 3:12 pm to
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TAMU shouldnt even be in the Cotton Bowl..the #2 Big 12 team should be, which is Oklahoma St. or the loser of OU/Nebraska

Only reason TAMU is in Cotton Bowl is because of greed by the bowl committee.

Yeah. Nothing to do with them defeating Nebraska, OU and Texas and being the first team to accomplish that in decades.
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 3:18 pm to
I just hate everything about A&M, has nothing to do with the historical aspect of the game.
Posted by TigahRag
Sorting Out OT BS Since 2005
Member since May 2005
132775 posts
Posted on 12/4/10 at 3:20 pm to
A&M has won 8 of the last 12 games in the series -- including the last 5 in a row -- and was like Rice on the schedule for years ..
This post was edited on 12/4/10 at 4:37 pm
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