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re: If you are looking forward at all, then you should like what you see.

Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by Lebowski
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
3544 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:18 pm to
Always NEXT YEAR!
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:19 pm to
I'm just telling you that Oklahoma's situation is not our situation. It's not close. So don't try to say it is. There is no comparison.
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Both have beaten ranked teams
Only one is currently ranked. If you want to go by their ranking at the time, one was top 5 and one was 21st. And Oklahoma killed OSU.
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Both have a really bad loss in this year's resume
There is about 50 spots in recruiting rankings between Iowa State and Troy.
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Both schools usually have good recruiting classes
Only one is top 10, and it's not us.

Also, only one has had incredibly embarrassing news conferences. And only one program has a public joke of an AD.

Again, you are not looking at the entire picture. You're just seeing what you want to.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 4:21 pm
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:23 pm to
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Point to one post where I said that. Just one.
By saying that Oklahoma is the same situation as us is saying that our complaints are not merited. You're basically saying that we're wrong for judging O harsher than Riley. That's the first example right there.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26300 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:27 pm to
agree to disagree. we will just leave it at that. i think they are pretty similar this year. you don't. fair enough.

Last year they were 32 spots different. That's a lot I must admit. I assumed wrong there and will acknowledge that.

Like I said, let's review all this at the end of the year and see where we stand.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:29 pm to
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youre shitting on your own stance. why did you want miles fired if lsu wasnt that talented?


I'm confused as hell. For years, the rant has told me that anyone could win 10 games a year at LSU, and that Miles was wasting all the talent that LSU had. Talent that he recruited

Now, I'm being told that LSU has no talent, and it's Miles fault.

Since Miles won 114 games in his 11 year tenure, with no talent, why didn't we just get a hot shot recruiter who could bring in some talent for Miles to work with. Because he won a boat load of games with shite talent over the years.

This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:30 pm to
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The reason Miles lost 3+ games the last 4 seasons and the reason he had a down year in 08-09 was because of roster management problems plus his dumbass offense where all those 5 star receivers barely were used




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Do you really think we had adequate depth in 14 at DT


we were young. its the one year where us losing 21 draftable juniors finally took it's toll. the next closest program was bama with 12.


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and at LB in 15 and 16?


2015 DT-Gilmore,godchaux,herron,lacouture,lawrence,trey lfmoa,
2015 lb- beckwith,divinity,garret,debo jones,louis lamar,duke riley(4 nfl lbs)


my god do your home work. are you blaming miles for transfers while not blaming o?

do you know how many programs would kill for those players?


This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 4:34 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26300 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:32 pm to
If you read that post as me belittling y'all because you think O is a bad coach, then my fault. The argument wasnt that you were wrong for thinking that but that Oklahoma was pretty close to us PROGRAM wise and that they just suffered a bad loss to one team and narrowly escaped a bad loss from Baylor. They are going through the same ups and downs that we are. Sooner nation might be calling for Riley's head I don't know.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:33 pm to
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I'm confused as hell. For years, the rant has told me that anyone could win 10 games a year at LSU, and that Miles was wasting all the talent that LSU had. Talent that he recruited 

Now, I'm being told that LSU has no talent, and it's Miles fault. 

Since Miles won 114 games in his 11 year tenure, withno talent, why didn't we just get a hot shot recruiter who could bring in some talent for Miles to work with. Because he won a both load of games with shite talent over the years. 


exactly.


if miles averaged 10 wins a year for 11 years with just a bunch of 5 star dbs and 5 star wrs why was he fired?

the rant never ceases to amaze me.

they literally change their stances from year to year to support their opinions.


who knew 4 nfl lbs isnt enough?

This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5895 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:38 pm to
Lawrence wasn’t here in 15. Trey l got arrested and suspended. Divinity wasn’t here and Lamar Louis was playing de so you do your homework you stupid mfer
And Clifton Garrett was horrible and your boy Miles took him instead of Kenny young who would be starting at ILB for LSU right now
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:44 pm to
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Sooner nation might be calling for Riley's head I don't know.
Why would they? They beat a top 5 team and only have one loss so far this year. And they're top 10 in recruiting. And their coach sounds competent in press conferences and isn't throwing people under the bus.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 4:45 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26300 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:53 pm to
Ive already posted this numerous times.

30 point favorite loss to a team that they were 72-5 against and had a current 19 game winning streak over, with a Heisman QB at that.



And in regards to recruiting. Lol at you saying they arent even close. OK is currently 10th overall and LSU is 16th. You had me thinking LSU was struggling.


Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:54 pm to
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Lawrence wasn’t here in 15. Trey l got arrested and suspended. Divinity wasn’t here and Lamar Louis was playing de so you do your homework you stupid mfer 
And Clifton Garrett was horrible and your boy Miles took him instead of Kenny young who would be starting at ILB for LSU right now





yeah those things happen.




educate yourself instead of regurgitating bull shite rant myths.


Lamar louis lsu sports.net
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Played in 12 games with two starts at outside linebacker … Was the first linebacker off the field when the Tigers went to their nickel package … Managed 30 tackles and 1.0 tackles for loss … Starts came against Syracuse and South Carolina, both LSU wins … Tied a career-high with nine tackles against Arkansas … Had four tackles in win over Auburn and four tackles and a tackle for a loss against Alabama.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26300 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:55 pm to
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And their coach sounds competent in press conferences and isn't throwing people under the bus.


Legit argument, but wrong debate to make it in IMO. I dont know why this and Troy are the constant things being thrown out. Its like you think I dont remember him doing this or us losing to Troy.



Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38378 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:57 pm to
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I'm confused as hell. For years, the rant has told me that anyone could win 10 games a year at LSU, and that Miles was wasting all the talent that LSU had. Talent that he recruited

Now, I'm being told that LSU has no talent, and it's Miles fault.

Since Miles won 114 games in his 11 year tenure, with no talent, why didn't we just get a hot shot recruiter who could bring in some talent for Miles to work with. Because he won a boat load of games with shite talent over the years.


+1000

None of the narratives match up. Well there is one narrative that makes sense but it's lost in all of the above mess.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:59 pm to
And once again you fail to acknowledge the other factors.

LSU just lost their top recruit. There's negative rumors about the recruiting next year.

And losing to Troy is not the same thing as losing to a bad conference opponent. Especially one who has done far better in recruiting than Troy.

And again, you failed to acknowledge that beating OSU is not the same thing as beating Florida. And you also fail to acknowledge that O is burying himself in the media.

How many times are we going to go round about this?
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 4:59 pm to
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None of the narratives match up. Well there is one narrative that makes sense but it's lost in all of the above mess.



we all know what the narrative except for a few posters.


ed orgeron isnt a good head coach.

Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5895 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 5:01 pm to
What things happen ? You saying we had 2 players on our team that were still in HS and 1 that was playing at different position because we lacked depth there
What happened when beckwith went out the game the last 2 years? Teams ran all over us because we lacked quality depth
Do you think it’s ok when you go through a recruiting cycle and sign 0 DTs or 0 Lbs?
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
37764 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 5:02 pm to
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Legit argument, but wrong debate to make it in IMO. I dont know why this and Troy are the constant things being thrown out. Its like you think I dont remember him doing this or us losing to Troy.
When you compare our situation to Oklahoma's and say they're mirror images, but then you're not considering these factors, you're basically making your argument void.

O deserves to be attacked because of all of these factors. Riley deserves not to be attacked because ALL of these factors. That's the bottom line.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 5:04 pm to
Im not happy either Rick but goddamned son...lighten up and try to be a little happy with the FL win.

Yea it was ugly as shite but until I SEE Auburn push our shite in on Saturday, I'm gonna believe we got a slim shot.

Your retarded regurgitation of the same ol CEO stats is not going to change jack moving forward...let it go!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 5:11 pm to
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What happened when beckwith went out the game the last 2 years? Teams ran all over us because we lacked quality depth 
Do you think it’s ok when you go through a recruiting cycle and sign 0 DTs or 0 Lbs?


and i said that 1 year was bad. that 1 year doesnt outweigh the other 10 years. good god bruh get a grip.


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