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re: If we had to go 9-3, why did we fire Les Miles

Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:39 pm to
Kill yourself. Seriously.
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:41 pm to
Miles would not have beaten Auburn. We would have kept running right into the teeth of their defense and gone nowhere. I think he would have lost to Troy as well because we were basically running his offense in the first half and it wasn't working. We'd basically be 8-4 right now.

But 9-3 vs 8-4? Still seems about the same. We didn't replace Miles just to get that one additional win. We did it because we didn't want to be irrelevant in December any more... Which we still are. So in that sense, yeah we spent a bunch of money to buy out Miles and we really haven't seen it pay off yet.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:42 pm to
Your boy, O, will never even sniff a natty.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13203 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:44 pm to
Kill yourself. Seriously.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9556 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 8:45 pm to
I call bullshite on this thread.

Les had his chances.

Totally BS...
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60649 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:16 pm to
Miles wouldn’t recruit a QB
Posted by tigernnola
NOLA
Member since Sep 2016
3589 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:20 pm to
Move on, please - the Miles era is over
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12989 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

recruiting is worse than miles.
Actually, it's not.

wouldnt have lost to Troy
Perhaps not, but we would have lost to Auburn and likely Arkansas

Miles played Alabama tougher
No he didn't.
Posted by Mafru1984
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2017
634 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:35 pm to
Yeah, definitely should have kept Miles! I mean, he is a great coach! Since we've fired him, everybody has tried to get him! Oh wait, nevermind!
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33886 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

Miles arguable took the most talented LSU team ever and lost 21-0 to bama.



Well, first of all he beat Saban earlier that year.

Second of all, he put that type of team together. Those are two things Orgeron would be insanely lucky to accomplish.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:40 pm to
Why does everything have to be one extreme or another here?

Les needed to go.

Orgeron was an uninspiring hire, who still has to prove he’s an upgrade. This year he didn’t do that.
Posted by BuyloSellhi
The South
Member since May 2017
684 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:42 pm to
Sounds like you are bent having to work today.

Please go away and don’t attempt to post again for 4-6 months.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:47 pm to
You are dumb as F
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

i'm not a miles fan at all, but you don't fire miles & hire a guy who was 10-25 at his previous stop, you just can't do that at lsu


well, it happened. and it happened over a year ago. and the result has been encouraging. it seems to many, myself included, that we have hit bottom and are on the upswing. on course, only time will tell. but it was very clear that miles (who I was a big supporter of) had gotten complacent and refused to fire his friend at OC and take the necessary steps to turn the team around. his firing was a must.

and you know damn good and well how Orgeron got the job. the FACTS are there; fisher and herman turned us down and, at the time, Orgeron was a good alternative for various reasons. and, he has so far proved to be a reasonable alternative because he is taking necessary steps to improve the team. yes, we stuttered coming out of the box last year, but recovered and have done quite well since then.

you have a choice. accept that O is our coach and pull for the team OR continue to bitch about the hire. the latter is so juvenile.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Orgeron was a good alternative for various reasons. and, he has so far proved to be a reasonable alternative because he is taking necessary steps to improve the team


He gets a pass for this year. Next year he’d better go 10-2 or better.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

Orgeron was an uninspiring hire


true

quote:

who still has to prove he’s an upgrade


true

quote:

This year he didn’t do that.


he most certainly proved he was an upgrade over Miles last few years. the team started slow and had suspensions and lots of key injuries that cost him at least one game. but it appears strongly that the teams decline has been stopped and we are on the way up. sorry he couldn't take miles players and win a natty in his first year.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
11446 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

sorry he couldn't take miles players and win a natty in his first year.


Nobody expected a natty or SECCG win this year. He gets a pass for 9-3, as he did a decent job.

Next year he has to improve on that. And he doesn’t get to use the schedule as an excuse to lose 3 or more.
This post was edited on 12/25/17 at 10:05 pm
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3711 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 10:02 pm to
And how many teams showed interest in Orgeron? NONE!!
Posted by Tigris Christi
Member since Jul 2016
2117 posts
Posted on 12/25/17 at 10:06 pm to
quote:



recruiting is worse than miles
wouldnt have lost to Troy
Miles played Alabama tougher


I agree with the premise of the topic, but 2 of your 3 conjectures are wrong!
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