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If Players Aren't Going to Make It In the NBA, Why Not Stay?

Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:31 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:31 pm
The NBA drafts off of potential. If a guy is not getting a draft grade, why not stay in school? Sure, they can play in the D League for peanuts or in Europe (if lucky) or in Iraq like Marshall Henderson, but why not stay in school one more year and take another shot at improving so that you do get drafted?

Or, when guys do this are they basically admitting that they know they aren't going to raise their stock any and it might get worse so they might as well get on with it?

If they KNOW that they are a mediocre basketball player who won't be that successful, why not at least get their free degree so they can get a better job later? I understand the guys who are lottery picks who leave early. I don't understand the guys who aren't going to make it.

What is the appeal?
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:33 pm to
Overseas pays decent money and you get to see other parts of the world. I can see the draw especially since it's something these guys love to do.
Posted by jprice4608
Member since Dec 2011
944 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:35 pm to
Because they don't have rich parents like you
Posted by Tino
:yawn:
Member since Dec 2004
86225 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:35 pm to
You don't understand how much some people hate going to school
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278306 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

If Players Aren't Going to Make It In the NBA, Why Not Stay?



because they have confidence in themselves?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75183 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:41 pm to
Is this a serious question?
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7216 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:42 pm to
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You don't understand how much some people hate going to school



Yeah, 12 hours a semester in general studies at the cox center with free unlimited tutoring, all I can eat, and posh housing at West Campus sounds horrible.


Posted by WilsonPickett
St Amant, LA
Member since Oct 2009
1647 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:42 pm to
Many are not in school for a dregee. If he can make decent money in Europe and still work towards his NBA dream, why not? He doesnt have to pass History 201 to keep playing either!

Many everyday students leave college to go to work and dont finish their degree or go back later.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

The NBA drafts off of potential.
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why not stay in school one more year and take another shot at improving so that you do get drafted?


you answered your own question. NBA scouts have seen all they have to see. They know where they are at now and know young players will improve. They don't need to see anymore. The appeal to the young player is that he gets to devote himself to his sport and get paid while playing the game he loves.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:44 pm to
My parents weren't rich. They could not afford to send me to college. Scholarships, Pell Grants, loans, and working 1-2 jobs at a time while going to school is how I did it. You?
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:47 pm to
If Mickey plays on a championship team next year and finishes games and makes free throws, I promise you he will get drafted. It will be all about momentum.

He is being shortsighted.

But, it isn't just about him. This kind of thinking is rampant. It is hard to imagine that Shaq came back for his junior year after winning National Player of the Year and averaging 27-28 ppg his Soph year. He came back because his parents valued education.

A different time, I guess.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

why not at least get their free degree so they can get a better job later?




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I don't understand


no shite
Posted by jprice4608
Member since Dec 2011
944 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:54 pm to
My parents weren't rich. They could not afford to send me to college. Scholarships, Pell Grants, loans, and working 1-2 jobs at a time while going to school is how I did it. You?


1 or 2 jobs? Three diff ways to pay for school? If you're going to lie, stick to one story.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:57 pm to
Look, it makes sense to go pro if you are going to make it. It doesn't if you aren't.

Sure, if your goal is to play international ball, then more power to you. Go disappear in Europe for a decade and then come back here and get a job. Whatever.

Or, be on a championship-level college team, work on your game, and maybe get another look by the NBA.

Staying one more year has more upside. Europe or Iraq or whatever will still be there.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:00 pm to
Something tells me you have a trust fund
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27680 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:14 pm to
These guys go to college for the same reason I did, to get them ready for their careers. When they feel they've maximized their growth in college they go on to their careers. Mickey, Martin, and all the others felt that college had prepared them as much as possible for their career, therefore they left to start making money. Degrees are useless in the NBA.

I had friends that went to college for a year and left to go work in a plant. They got as much as they were going to get out of college and followed their calling to go be operators. They're all doing really well and none of them regret the decision.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:14 pm to
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1 or 2 jobs? Three diff ways to pay for school? If you're going to lie, stick to one story.


That is exactly what I did.

Are you serious? I knew a bunch of people doing the same. Partial scholarship. Loans. Pell Grant. My parents had nothing much to give me. My mom bought me meal plan my freshman year and sent me $100 a month to help with rent the next 2 years. That was it. I was on my own. I did a appreciate their insurance my first 3 years (health and car).

Then, I worked as well. One part time job then I picked up another on weekends. Between the two jobs, it was around 30 hrs a week at pretty low pay. That was my last two years of school. My first year was just the loans, partial scholarship, and Pell Grant.

Put all that together and I paid for school and supported myself with a little help from my folks.

The fact that you don't even know that that is possible or you think someone would make that up is pretty amazing. LOTS of people do that. It is not that special.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21120 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:15 pm to
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Something tells me you have a trust fund





I wish.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:21 pm to
Books and studying is hard for some.
Basketball easy .
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Slippy
Across the rivah
Member since Aug 2005
6576 posts
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:30 pm to
99% of these kids will fail at their "chosen profession."

Most college athletes go in thinking they're special. They've been given an easy ride by coaches and teachers all their lives. They've never taken school seriously and are not dedicated students. They do not appreciate the value of the blessing they have been given, i.e., a college scholarship.

I have no sympathy for them.
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