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re: If LSU wins the COIN TOSS?

Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by GeologyGrad88
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2015
1027 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:13 pm to
Hopefully, Dumbass Dak hasn't been giving any free lessons on how to make the decision after the coin toss.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18139 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:23 pm to
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Always when it may be a close game you wait till the 2nd half.
THIS could provide you one extra possession in the 2nd half..
but if you take the ball to start the game, you could get one extra possession in the 1st half and build a bigger lead.

All other arguments I've read in this thread why teams should defer (adjustments, cold/nervous start, injuries, etc) apply just as much to the opponent as to us.

It's all equal!! It's simply a matter of do you want to put your O or D on the field to start the game.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202955 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:32 pm to
Always defer. You get a feel for the offense first and if you make that stop only good things can happen. The key to this is that if you get a three and out you have to get some progress on your first drive. But getting the ball in the second half helps
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22317 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:39 pm to
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I say take the kick off and commence to kicking arse??????
I was thinking the same thing. The first cut is the deepest. We seem to swoon in the 3rd Quarter anyway and might be a wasted set of downs.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18139 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 5:40 pm to
[/quote]]Always defer. You get a feel for the offense first and if you make that stop only good things can happen. The key to this is that if you get a three and out you have to get some progress on your first drive. [/quote]

yea, but if you don’t get that stop and your opponent scores, you’re behind from the start.
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But getting the ball in the second half helps
getting the ball to start the game helps too.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 5:41 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18139 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 5:42 pm to
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Always defer. 3 and out, punt, TD and you get the ball first 2nd half as well.
or Clemson marches down the field and we’re playing from behind.

Put your best unit on the field first. And that’s our offense.
Posted by BHMTiger84
Birmingham, AL
Member since Oct 2015
1321 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:52 pm to
The goats need to eat.
Posted by ztro4
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jul 2011
1124 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:37 pm to
I always say do what you are best at. In our case offense so take the ball. Deferring seems to be working for us well, so I'd stick with that.
Posted by lsudocts
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2015
248 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 1:26 am to
This came from Sean Payton philosophy. Always get ball to start second half. He tries to time it so he can score last in first half then first in second half. Came over with Brady. We didnt defer everytime last year.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26272 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 4:34 am to
You always defer because you have more information in the 3rd quarter than the 1st quarter. Not just information on how the opponent is defending you, but also more information on how the game is going, how desperate or not are you for points, do you need to be going for it on 4th down or kicking FG, going fast-paced or slow it down, etc etc etc.

Not to mention the 1st quarter is the least important quarter of a football game.

And the fact that it’s very typical for teams to start slow, especially in big games after an extended layoff as they “feel out” their opponent during the scripted portion of the game and settle in and move past the “nerves” portion of the early game.

You always defer if you win the toss.

That said, it’s a coin toss...it is what it is. The coin toss and whatever team’s decision to defer or take ball will not decide the winner of the game. But the correct football move is to defer if you win the toss and have the choice.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 4:41 am
Posted by pitbull20
Somewhere close... real close
Member since Oct 2003
7762 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:18 am to
The main reason to defer is to set up two for one possessions going into and returning from halftime.

If you do that and take advantage your putting a ton of pressure on the opponent to keep up and change their gameplan.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:24 am to
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but if you take the ball to start the game, you could get one extra possession in the 1st half and build a bigger lead.


winning the first half does not mean as much as winning the second half....

an opponent scores against you in the first quarter and you always fell you have time time recover.
NOT SO in the third quarter SPECIALLY if you had given the opponent the ball to start with and still led at half time.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50129 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:37 am to
It doesn’t make a bit of difference. We are going to out score Clempson from start to finish.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18770 posts
Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:58 am to
I get a kick out of the roar of big game crowds when the winner of the coin toss is announced.

It's like they scored a TD.
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