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re: If JR comes back in 2007 and we win the Title
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:12 pm to roygu
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:12 pm to roygu
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One common trait of Davey, Mauck, and Flynn was they would put their body at risk if it meant the the difference between success or failure. Up until the Tennessee game in JR's last season I didn't see that attitude.
so you missed the whole 2005 season?
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Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:12 pm to TigerBait1127
roygu misses a lot of things...
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:15 pm to TigerBait1127
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bayoutigernutjob
name fits
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:19 pm to TigerBait1127
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so you missed the whole 2005 season?
ouch...
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:30 pm to TigerBait1127
JR is the most talented QB we've had, but that means little in terms of leadership or consistency. We don't win national title with JR. He threw the ball at one speed and would have lost the experienced receivers that knew their routes and adjusted to broken plays.
I'm a huge JR fan after saying that. The only thing I've ever had against him was the Cosby sweater he wore on the sidelines at the National Championship game.
I'm a huge JR fan after saying that. The only thing I've ever had against him was the Cosby sweater he wore on the sidelines at the National Championship game.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:33 pm to wds
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He threw the ball at one speed
you're an idiot
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:38 pm to ForeLSU
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LSU fans adopt as their favorites, players who show emotion and leadership
LSU fans rarely see leadership though. it's a rumor more than anything
and yes, there are "LSU guys" who cannot have a negative word spoken about
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:40 pm to roygu
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One common trait of Davey, Mauck, and Flynn was they would put their body at risk if it meant the the difference between success or failure.
JR played hurt most of 2005
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He threw the ball at one speed
Dude, for a guy with a cannon for an arm, JR has one of the nicest touch passes out there.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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JR played hurt most of 2005
true
I met him after the florida game.
he was shaking hands with his left hand, and I thought something might be wrong then..
really nice guy, kind of goofy.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:49 pm to TheDoc
i guess you have to be outspoken to be a "leader"
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:50 pm to wds
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We don't win national title with JR.
So basically the KEY to NCs in your opinion is (drum roll please) .....
Average QB play. We won the NC with an average at best SEC QB who seemed to play great in the 4th quarter after being below avg usually in the first 3.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:53 pm to STEVED00
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seemed to play great in the 4th quarter after being below avg usually in the first 3.
to be fair...a number of JR's games fit this description as well
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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LSU fans rarely see leadership though. it's a rumor more than anything
and yes, there are "LSU guys" who cannot have a negative word spoken about
Agreed that fans generally don't see leadership because most of it happens behind the scenes. JR needed less because he worked with the same core group for several years. The main difference between 2006 and 2007 outside of the schedule was the development of the receiving corps.
I don't know many LSU guys who haven't been trashed at one time or another here. I don't have a thing against JR, just think the situations were very different.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 2:57 pm to TigerBait1127
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so you missed the whole 2005 season?
hell did he miss the Oregon St game?
Posted on 6/30/09 at 3:01 pm to wds
I don't have a stake in most of this, but I am glad to see that several have challenged the assertion that JR always threw the ball at one speed. He really had nice touch, too, especially by the end of 2006.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 3:03 pm to kclsufan
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Dude, for a guy with a cannon for an arm, JR has one of the nicest touch passes out there.
I'm not saying he couldn't or ever didn't throw a ball with touch, but that was his default setting. His arm is sick and his hands so big they used the extra girth ball. His fingers still wrapped around it and made for a nice spiral. Saying that guys with a big arm tend to rely on it in situations that it isn't required.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 3:06 pm to ForeLSU
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to be fair...a number of JR's games fit this description as well
Pass to Dbowe at Bama is prime example. Buster was a huge posession guy down the stretch on 3rd down.
Posted on 6/30/09 at 3:07 pm to wds
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would have lost the experienced receivers that knew their routes and adjusted to broken plays.
like Bowe, Early and Buster?
Posted on 6/30/09 at 3:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
I didn't read every post, but I see some have said, and I agree, that JR just didn't live up to what some people thought he would so they decided they didn't like him. I like him, and feel he did LSU proud. I have never played college football, but I would guess it would be hard to be a dominant QB, especially in the SEC.
This post was edited on 6/30/09 at 3:13 pm
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