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re: If JJ performed like in 09, and so far in 10' but had 2008 defense
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:46 am to Roaad
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:46 am to Roaad
Ok I guess I can buy that, but I am assuming that you mean even JJ would have lost those games in 2008, because that would have been true.
Now, in 2010, do you think we would be 3-0 with JL.
Now, in 2010, do you think we would be 3-0 with JL.
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Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:48 am to slackster
quote:JJ was not ready yet, so he probably loses them as well.
Ok I guess I can buy that, but I am assuming that you mean even JJ would have lost those games in 2008, because that would have been true.
fwiw, I think Hatch beats UGA. . .and probably Bama.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:49 am to Roaad
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This is a hard transition for our fan base, but you have to face it at some point, that our team has changed and the complexion of the offense has changed.
The fanbase doens't like the idea of being bullshatted by their coaches. If anything, it's not a statement of who we are, but of who we aren't. Thats why we sit at number 15 in the polls. We don't run because we are good at running, we run because JJ is quick, but he can't pass. The most effecient qb in the NCAA right now is Greg McElroy for Alabama, yet they run the ball alot knowing that he can pass.
There's little debate that JL has a better ARM than JJ. I don't think im the only person who's sick and tired of CLM's deliberate deception and labelling of this "new identity" of ours, when really it's just the fact that he knows a loss with JJ is more forgivable than a loss with JL in the game, and thus he must justify keeping JJ in the game. POLITICS.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:49 am to slackster
quote:If La Tech is what JL brings us? We are 2-1 with a loss to UNC.
Now, in 2010, do you think we would be 3-0 with JL.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:50 am to Roaad
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fwiw, I think Hatch beats UGA. . .and probably Bama.
Wow, I think you are in the minority there buddy.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:51 am to Roaad
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fwiw, I think Hatch beats UGA. .
come on now, uga could have named the score in that game, we had no shot of slowing their offense down'
we got 2 junk TD's that made the score better than it actually was
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:53 am to EricB
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Now, in 2010, do you think we would be 3-0 with JL.
Absolutely. The way our defense has played... absolutely. There's no way you can say that JL would have managed the 2nd half offense versus UNC any worse than JJ did either. It was neither of their faults that Ridley fumbled though.
Speaking of Ridley, the guy strongly incenuiated (pardon my spelling) himself, that he's all for JL getting much more playing time, if not starting.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:54 am to DBG
quote:Lee's arm gave them 17 points. . .we lost by 14.
come on now, uga could have named the score in that game, we had no shot of slowing their offense down'
Without those points given away, I think we are in that game at the end.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:55 am to EricB
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Speaking of Ridley, the guy strongly incenuiated (pardon my spelling) himself, that he's all for JL getting much more playing time, if not starting.
They were roommates their first 2 years on campus FWIW.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:55 am to EricB
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If La Tech is what JL brings us? We are 2-1 with a loss to UNC.
If Vandy, THIS YEAR, is what JJ brings us to UNC, we are 2-1. I can name plenty of terrible performances from JJ AFTER JL's debacle at La tech last year.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:55 am to slackster
quote:Doesn't make me less right.
Wow, I think you are in the minority there buddy.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:56 am to EricB
quote:bullshite!
There's little debate that JL has a better ARM than JJ.
There is a SHITTON™ of debate about whether Lee has a better arm. The biggest reason why there is a SHITTON™ of debate about whether Lee has a better arm is because the known facts tend to suggest that Lee does NOT have a better arm.
quote:Do you really believe the shite you are spewing? Why would a loss with Jefferson be more forgivable than a loss with Lee?
it's just the fact that he knows a loss with JJ is more forgivable than a loss with JL in the game, and thus he must justify keeping JJ in the game. POLITICS.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:57 am to EricB
quote:Except JJ played UNC, Vandy, and MSU. . .
If Vandy, THIS YEAR, is what JJ brings us to UNC, we are 2-1.
. . .and won all 3.
quote:
I can name plenty of terrible performances from JJ AFTER JL's debacle at La tech last year.
Q) How many were as bad as La Tech?
A) Vandy
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:57 am to Roaad
and they would have easily scored those 17 points whether lee helped them or not, thats a fact
like i said before, defense was the biggest problem in 2008, not lee
like i said before, defense was the biggest problem in 2008, not lee
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:57 am to Roaad
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If La Tech is what JL brings us? We are 2-1 with a loss to UNC
Wow dude.. Your thinking back to last year.. How about this year... Jordan Jefferson has 16 more yards than stevan ridley does rushing.. not to mention 2 straight games without a 100 yards i believe... Quit trying to use the past for Jarrett Lee.. What game did JJ win us this year... None.. the rest of team did. shite
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:57 am to just me
quote:awesome.
SHITTON™
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:59 am to DBG
quote:You have a strange definition of the word "fact", then. . .
and they would have easily scored those 17 points whether lee helped them or not, thats a fact
quote:Yup. Not to say that Lee was not a huge fricking problem in 08, just that the defense was more of a problem.
like i said before, defense was the biggest problem in 2008, not lee
Posted on 9/21/10 at 8:59 am to just me
quote:
The biggest reason why there is a SHITTON™ of debate about whether Lee has a better arm is because the known facts tend to suggest that Lee does NOT have a better arm.
Meh, I have stayed neutral in this debate, basically trying to hear out both sides, but I have to say that LSUSports.net has about 20 videos of JL showing he has a better arm than JJ. The kid was an Elite 11 prospect coming out of high school. Whether he can read a defense or make the RIGHT throw is debatable, but as far as his arm goes, it has only gotten stronger. He has as good of an arm as you will see in college football. His big problems lie elsewhere.
That said, JJ has some new found velocity on some of his passes this year, but he is not quite at JL's level. Still perfectly adequate, however.
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:00 am to DBG
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like i said before, defense was the biggest problem in 2008, not lee
This... Our defense caused us to have to throw a whole lot which was a problem for lee.. We were always having to play catch up
Posted on 9/21/10 at 9:00 am to Lsutim3
quote:Lee's last start. Lee's last significant playing time.
Wow dude.. Your thinking back to last year.
Why is that not a good point of reference?
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