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re: I Would Rather Live/Die With Lee Than Go Through Another Jefferson Season

Posted on 9/2/11 at 8:44 am to
Posted by Larry Hollins
Member since Jul 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 8:44 am to
I don't give a shite about style. I want to win a nc no matter how the offense looks or who is at qb or OC.

people keep believing lm loves jj. wrong. lm made the decision that jj gave him the best chance to win. thats all. I don't understand how thats so hard to see give 16 picks by jl and 7 pic 6. lm was in no way ever going to replay that pic 6 movie again. so he chose the next guy in line jj.
Posted by wheelz007
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2010
3386 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 8:45 am to
I think most of us agree, Lee gives us a better chance at having a complete team.

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26173 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 8:48 am to
My take is that both Lee and Jefferson have been prone to panic. When Lee panics he gets myopic and doesn't see the defenders. When Jefferson panics he runs, sometimes with poor results and sometimes with spectacular results. On balance I like Jefferson's production during panic. However, I've seen Lee throw amazing passes.

If we can protect the quarterback at the line, Lee is the better. IF protection breaks down, we are better off with Jefferson. It all comes down to blocking protection. Hoping that the line is better this year, I prefer Lee. We will know a lot about our line on Sunday, and then we may want Jefferson back.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35082 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 8:49 am to
quote:

I think most of us agree, Lee gives us a better chance at having a complete team.


What is this suppose to mean?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 8:51 am to
jefferson was the better option in 2009 because the fricking offensive line was garbage

but not last year, and not this year where the line has been good
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Lee fanboys


I don't think you're understanding something, dick. I'm not a "lee boy". I'll call any of them out for not doing their damn job. I'm not a big believer in excuses or free lunches.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45418 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:04 am to
quote:

our offensive line in 2008 was horrible
lol wut?

Ciron Black and Herman Johnson?



since Lee's been named QB, there's been a few posts saying that the 08 OL was subpar and that was part of his struggles.

I know, crazy talk.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3005 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:10 am to
The 2008 OL was a fine OL. I think Lee got into trouble because the D was poor and it forced LSU to throw more than they wanted to. Also he was a RS freshman and made some mistakes attempting to get LSU back into the game and I think forced some throws he may or may not have done if the defense wasnt so bad and they were playing from behind.

I think he has matured and in 2010 threw only 1 INT in 89 attempts.

Obviously I am no JJ fan and would prefer Mett or Lee having won the job on the field but the die have been cast and I am perfectly happy to see Lee or if he isnt up to the challenge Mett lead the Tiger offense.

After watching JJ last year I really dont see how the offense could be any worse and I believe should be much better. Just having a qb who can hit Randle, Beckham, Peterson and the other wide receivers in stride should be a big improvement!
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45418 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:17 am to
or to put it succinctly, he was a freshman in the SEC trying to do too much, and having too much asked of him. he'll be fine this yr.

PASSING RECORDS WILL FALL!
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160478 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:24 am to
Crediting JJ for last year's win total is laughable
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:24 am to
I guess some of u missed last season. Lee came off the bench & won 3 games for us as JJ faltered!
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160478 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:25 am to
Rooooaaaaad is upset because his predictions for JJ never came to fruition
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48708 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Lee came off the bench & won 3 games for us as JJ faltered!


Let's not exaggerate history.
Posted by Larry Hollins
Member since Jul 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:28 am to
I don't care as much about jj or jl as I do about LSU. having said that, we are supposed to be in the nc hunt big time this year. I don't see anything in jl past that would lead any partially objective person to believe he could lead us to a nc.

I think jj starting gave us a better chance because he could run and that gave defenses something to game plan for and respectand we also had jl available to come in (like last year)
when needed. with no jj we lose the run option and the experienced backup option. no nc without jj but I must say I don't think we could win it with jj and no jl as backup. neither guy has PROVED to be good enough. we really need both.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41960 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:28 am to
The lee-tards are out in full force this morning. I'm hoping I get to see some more generic adjectives thrown around like "unquestionable heart and desire" and "good head on his shoulders".
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Posted by Message
BeeFense5
I Would Rather Live/Die With Lee Than Go Through Another Jefferson Season
The lee-tards are out in full force this morning. I'm hoping I get to see some more generic adjectives thrown around like "unquestionable heart and desire" and "good head on his shoulders".




They're making it hard, bruh. But I'm trying to hang on.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:38 am to
I don't understand why people find it so hard to understand that you can actually support both.

it seems like the these Lee guys want JJ crucified and never allowed to play again. I don't understand that.

I was actually getting called out yesterday by some of them for supporting Lee and hoping he does well....all because ive been pulling for JJ in this barfight shite. Its mind boggling
Posted by bubbaprohn
Kansas
Member since Feb 2009
4056 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:39 am to
quote:

I think jj starting gave us a better chance because he could run and that gave defenses something to game plan for


But he also couldn't pass the ball for shite (minus a few games). So their "gameplan" was to stack 8 or 9 guys in the box all game.

If Lee can come in and give us ANY kind of a passing game teams won't be able to stack 8 or 9 in the box all game. This coupled with the fact that the OLine is gonna be the best we've had since 08 and our RB's are gonna have a lot more holes to run through this year.

Lee gives the ability to throw deep/burn defenses with his arm. JJ failed to do that in a lot of games last year.

The potential is there for this offense to put up '07/'08 numbers. It all depends on how Lee plays. I for one think he'll be able to get it done.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48708 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:43 am to
quote:

'08 numbers.


Posted by bubbaprohn
Kansas
Member since Feb 2009
4056 posts
Posted on 9/2/11 at 9:45 am to
Puke all you want. I would gladly take '08 numbers (minus the picks, should have thrown that in there) over what we had last year.
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