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re: I still miss Jamarcus
Posted on 4/30/09 at 10:14 pm to PRIDGENTIGER
Posted on 4/30/09 at 10:14 pm to PRIDGENTIGER
quote:
He threw less int than Flynm
Ints are not the only mistake a quarterback can make. JR fumbled 4 times in 2006 because of his tendency to be careless with the ball when under pressure. That gives him 11 total turnovers compared to MF's 11 turnovers, seems equal to me. Also, considering how seldomly he was sacked, 4 fumbles is pretty terrible.
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when everyone in the stadium knew we were throwing the ball
MF actually had more pass attempts in less games. Just sayin...
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Posted on 4/30/09 at 10:39 pm to The Boat
Just got in this thread, but my thoughts are the JR is the most under appreciated tiger ever. The guy was amazing.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 10:40 pm to Hot Carl
quote:I know. And it's bullshite that he can't see this guy as an idiot, or ignorant, or dumb, or irrationally biased by some other factor about either Russell or Flynn; all he can see is a white guy and a black guy, so anything he deems irrational must be based on race.
Joey, this is why TheDoc drops the race card so much.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 10:42 pm to Nuts4LSU
Joey, you staying the night at Nuts house?
Posted on 4/30/09 at 10:50 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:I didn't say you were attacking him. I said you were making a point about him and diminishing his achievements. You can argue that claiming his National Championship team "didn't stand out" is not diminishing his achievement, but I'll continue to disagree.
One, I haven't attacked Flynn on this site
quote:Wow. Deserving the National Championship by not standing out. Now I completely understand.
LSU was completely deserving of the NC, we had the best resume. Do I think we stood out? No
quote:Usually, when every other team is gone and only one team is left, that stands out.
We were the only team left
Posted on 4/30/09 at 11:28 pm to Gugich22
no one hated him. get over it, he's gone but not forgotten. I hate this thread. J.R. was clutch. He doesn't need you to speak up for his performance. you just want a 17 plus thread. I'd start one if I was so shallow..."Can J.L. come back or is J.J. our Quarterback?
You sink to the worst denominator of what's worthwhile on this board.
You sink to the worst denominator of what's worthwhile on this board.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 11:41 pm to Nuts4LSU
I think this thread is a slap (unintentional or not) at Flynn. LSU struggled mightily when Flynn left, not at all when Russell left.
Year prior to Flynn, 0 championships. Flynn, 2 championships. Year after Flynn, no championships.
Year before Flynn, 2 losses. Flynn, 2 losses. Year after Flynn, 5 losses.
Year before Flynn, 438 points scored. Flynn, 541 point scored. Year after Flynn, 402 points scored.
If this year has made us miss a Quarterback, we shouldn't have to jump past a BCSCG MVP to find one to miss, should we?
Year prior to Flynn, 0 championships. Flynn, 2 championships. Year after Flynn, no championships.
Year before Flynn, 2 losses. Flynn, 2 losses. Year after Flynn, 5 losses.
Year before Flynn, 438 points scored. Flynn, 541 point scored. Year after Flynn, 402 points scored.
If this year has made us miss a Quarterback, we shouldn't have to jump past a BCSCG MVP to find one to miss, should we?
Posted on 4/30/09 at 11:44 pm to TIsuGGER
agreed
Posted on 4/30/09 at 11:45 pm to Gugich22
quote:
Even after 3 years, I still miss Jamarcus Russell. And despite the huge amount of excitement I have for Jordan Jefferson and Russell Shepard, every time I see him play I can't help but wish he was still our QB.
It blows my mind to think that people hated him here and wanted Matt Flynn to play ahead of him. This guy was so special and was one of the best talents to ever play at LSU.
So, who is with me??
To Jamarcus!
This is the ONLY post of this entire thread that i took the time to read so regardless of what any of you have to say..
TO JAMARCUS! Posted on 4/30/09 at 11:50 pm to TigerStripes06
quote:
This is the ONLY post of this entire thread that i took the time to read so regardless of what any of you have to say..
I just have one thing to say, that I hope LSU wins.... COME ON. YOU CAN'T POST THAT CRAP ON HERE.
Posted on 4/30/09 at 11:51 pm to Rocket
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Joey, you staying the night at Nuts house?
I don't know why, but I literally lol'ed for about 30 straight seconds after reading this.
eta-word on the street is that KJ and Nuts are brothers
Posted on 5/1/09 at 12:06 am to King Joey
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Really? Is that the point here? More top 10 teams on the road is the be all, end all? So if you play a #5 team on the road and 11 1-AA teams at home, and I play 12 games against #11-#25 teams, 7 of them on the road, then it's not even debatable to you that you had the tougher schedule?
That's a retarded comment. 2006 had FOUR top 8 teams on the road, while 2007 didn't play anybody good on the road.
Posted on 5/1/09 at 12:17 am to mlttiger
i'm on my cell so yeah some of my shite is misspelled. You're still an overweight trouble maker who probably beats off to cook books. Fat boy.
Posted on 5/1/09 at 12:21 am to PRIDGENTIGER
good try, 6'2 152 Posted on 5/1/09 at 12:34 am to Gugich22
I liked JR too! Thought it was stupid many wanted Flynn to start over him. He had all the tools.
However, Jr left with 1 year of eligibility. He was a #1 pick. He did the right thing. I would like to think he would lead us to a NC in 2007 but we will never know.
I do know this... 6 minutes left in the Sugarbowl JR takes his shoulder pads off on the sidelines with the game still on. I took that as "He couldn't wait to be done with college football". I am not mad about that but it struck me as different when Matt Flynn made the press conference in full gear.
I hope JR sucess and honor what he did at LSU. But... Like Flynn... It is pretty much over now. These threads are pretty much useles because it argues or pines for something that is impossible.
JR was a great Tiger. He should be honored as such but that is all.
However, Jr left with 1 year of eligibility. He was a #1 pick. He did the right thing. I would like to think he would lead us to a NC in 2007 but we will never know.
I do know this... 6 minutes left in the Sugarbowl JR takes his shoulder pads off on the sidelines with the game still on. I took that as "He couldn't wait to be done with college football". I am not mad about that but it struck me as different when Matt Flynn made the press conference in full gear.
I hope JR sucess and honor what he did at LSU. But... Like Flynn... It is pretty much over now. These threads are pretty much useles because it argues or pines for something that is impossible.
JR was a great Tiger. He should be honored as such but that is all.
Posted on 5/1/09 at 5:52 am to TIsuGGER
quote:If all you're trying to say is that Flynn was a good quarterback you'll find no argument from me. There is an extreme double standard when comparing the two though. JR completes 68% of his passes and people say he was inaccurate; JR has a 3:1 td/int ration - which is sick - and people say it was all the receivers and no credit to JR. Flynn throws an interception on the final play of the regular season w/ a trip to the title game on the line and noone even blinks b/c pitt beat wvu
LSU struggled mightily when Flynn left, not at all when Russell left.
If you want to start a thread about how great Flynn was I'll gladly jump in and list the reasons why I loved the guy. Jamarcus was a great QB as well and I do not understand why there is this need to try to tear the guy down; take joy when he struggles and give him zero credit when he succeeds.
Posted on 5/1/09 at 6:07 am to Ringeaux
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One last point. His average completion for the three years at LSU is 8.5 yards. His junior year it was barely 9 yds/completion. Mindblowing
that IS actually good...
quote:
Matt Maucks senior year was just under 13 yds/completion.
matt mauck left LSU as a junior.
Posted on 5/1/09 at 6:17 am to Ringeaux
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Last time I looked football is a game of winning and losing.
2006: 2 losses, to the team who beat the national champs, and the national champs.
2007: 2 losses, to kentucky and arkansas...
quote:
A qb like Flynn/Mauck, clearly with less raw physical talent than JR that wins championships is a better qb IMHO.
teams win championships.
quote:
They made better game decisions
revisionist history. both flynn and mauck made all kinds of mistakes. shite, mauck threw 2 INT's in the championship game, and with a lost fumble, and the defense STILL took care of everything.
quote:
and had better natural insticts thus making them better overall QB's.
what?
quote:
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 5/1/09 at 6:29 am to Gugich22
JR was talented, no doubt. But he's been placed upon a pedestal by some when he shouldn't be. He played great in some games, and poorly in others. You never knew how he would react under pressure. Same as Flynn, Mauck, etc.
That said, after last year's debacle with Lee, I missed JR too.
That said, after last year's debacle with Lee, I missed JR too.
Posted on 5/1/09 at 6:48 am to MasonTiger
quote:
He played great in some games, and poorly in others.
yeah, I guess he didn't have "heart" and a "motor" like flynn did
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