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re: I really don't understand some of our fans. I need some answers.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 9:07 am to Tiger_n_ATL
Posted on 1/27/10 at 9:07 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Posted on 1/27/10 at 9:10 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:There's a reason why they call trap games, trap games. LSU did not play well that game. But they won. Every team is going to have a bad game every once in a while.
A sad and whiny excuse. You can use weasel words all you want to defend poor performances, but LSU should have crushed La Tech with it's 3rd string, and with Tech having 4 of it's best players not even playing. That is a product of poor coaching, poor motivation, and poor game planning. You can't spin that.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 9:12 am to just me
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Did you not notice that our QB was exceptionally green at the beginning of the 2008 season and at the beginning of the 2009 season?
Yes I did. Too bad he wasnt as prepared by the coaches as the even more green McElroy. I think he won a crystal football in his 1st year. Wow.
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Do you not think that LSU would have had a much better record in 2008 and in 2009 if Ryan Perrilloux had been playing QB?
No. Last I heard, he didnt coach or call plays.
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What is the greatest difference between 2005-2007 and 2008-2009? Is it the coaching staff or the talent at significant positions?
The training and coaching provided by a former coach that made leaders out of them and made them very disclipined.
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Do you not believe that LSU will improve at those positions in 2010 and 2011? Why do you refuse to acknowledge the obvious?
I hope we do. But then again, I thiink we have had loads of talent the last two years. It just isnt being coached up at all.
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Have you not seen the talent LSU is bringing in this year and next year?
I may be wrong but it doesnt look any better than the last previous few years. Needless to say, we have talent already. It doenst matter if you have talent and bad coaching. You will win about 8 games on talent and lose 3 or 4 on coaching. Nothing has really changed...
Ok, so whats the point of all of this?
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:27 am to just me
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There's a reason why they call trap games, trap games. LSU did not play well that game. But they won. Every team is going to have a bad game every once in a while.
You have trap games against Kentucky or Arkansas or someone like that. You do not have trap games against Louisiana Tech, especially when they are crippled by injuries and having a bad season in the WAC. There is no excuse for having that tough a game against that team if you consider yourself a good SEC team.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:29 am to Nuts4LSU
It's funny.
I could have sworn we won that game.
I could have sworn we won that game.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:30 am to just me
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Miles will not have a losing season in the next few seasons.
I, too, am hopeful that Alleva won't let it go that far, but that is the only thing that will prevent Miles having a losing season within the next two or three years. I guarantee that if Miles coaches our team through the 2012 season, we will have a losing season in either 2010, 2011 or 2012.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:35 am to just me
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I could have sworn we won that game.
We did win. But the fact that La. Tech had the lead at halftime and was still in the game at the end of the 4th quarter is the problem. Do elite programs struggle that much against Tech? I can understand coming out flat in the first half and breaking away in the second, but we didn't even break away. We only managed 24 points.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:36 am to Nuts4LSU
quote:And what would be the nature of that guarantee?
I guarantee that if Miles coaches our team through the 2012 season, we will have a losing season in either 2010, 2011 or 2012.
What happens if he doesn't have a losing season?
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:39 am to Chimlim
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I could have sworn we won that game.
We did win. But the fact that La. Tech had the lead at halftime and was still in the game at the end of the 4th quarter is the problem. Do elite programs struggle that much against Tech? I can understand coming out flat in the first half and breaking away in the second, but we didn't even break away. We only managed 24 points.
Did you feel that way when Saban lost to UAB or barely beat Troy?
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:42 am to just me
quote:"Let down games" is the proper excuse here, not trap games. A trap game would be a lowly SEC opponent or upstart OOC opponent.
here's a reason why they call trap games, trap games. LSU did not play well that game. But they won. Every team is going to have a bad game every once in a while.
Tech was neither of those. If you want to be a baby and say it was a let down game, fair enough, but it's the job of the coaches to see that doesn't happen, and the job of the senior leaders on the team to perform well even in the face of those circumstances.
We've had neither good coaching nor good senior leadership for two years in a row now.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:49 am to SouthernMan
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Did you feel that way when Saban lost to UAB or barely beat Troy?
Did we ever have an offense ranked 112 in the NCAA under Saban? Saban had his bad games, no doubt. But we at least had senior leadership and good running games. Something we have been severely lacking lately.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:54 am to Chimlim
You know, I'm not happy with our offensive production, but I'm really getting sick of the 112th meme.
Is the point of football to gain the most yards or to actually win games? At the end of the day, Miles' actual accomplishment this season was 9 wins (5-3 in the SEC) and a New Years Day Bowl.
Without looking it up, what was our offense ranked last season? The year before? What was it ranked in 2003? Who gives a crap?
Is the point of football to gain the most yards or to actually win games? At the end of the day, Miles' actual accomplishment this season was 9 wins (5-3 in the SEC) and a New Years Day Bowl.
Without looking it up, what was our offense ranked last season? The year before? What was it ranked in 2003? Who gives a crap?
Posted on 1/27/10 at 10:57 am to Chimlim
if i ever start to decline in my work i hope people will be good enough to make an endless amount of excuses for me just like some of you do for lord miles. face it, the team simply hasn't met the standards that the program is now used to. maybe for some of you that were in school when archer and hallman this is good enough, but for those of us who know what LSU is capable of it's not. the fact of the matter is your coaching god's put up or shut up year is coming. if he can't get the job done he will be gone. if he turns out to be the coaching master that you guys think he is he will be retained. no excuses, no blaming the qb or coordinators next season. this is his program, and if he can't get the job done in 2010 he's done.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 11:08 am to Tiger_n_ATL
LSU is not the 1st team ever to play poorly against an out manned team like Tech. Mich against ASU or Bama vs. ULM or UAB vs LSU or Navy vs ND in 07 and on and on. It happens all the time. So, stop acting like a close game against an out manned team is some freaking big deal cause it isn't.
LSU played poorly for whatever the reason, but won. Those other teams I listed played poorly and loss. There is a difference, you know.
To have a member of the doom and gloom patrol talk to another bout "whiny" is down right laughable.
BTW, I'm on an LSU forum backing the LSU football team and I don't come here to piss all over them on a regular basis like some do so you might want to look in the mirror when you start with your "weasel" BS.
LSU played poorly for whatever the reason, but won. Those other teams I listed played poorly and loss. There is a difference, you know.
To have a member of the doom and gloom patrol talk to another bout "whiny" is down right laughable.
BTW, I'm on an LSU forum backing the LSU football team and I don't come here to piss all over them on a regular basis like some do so you might want to look in the mirror when you start with your "weasel" BS.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 11:13 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:LSU won the game. LSU beat Tech. Even with Lee at QB, LSU won the game.
"Let down games" is the proper excuse here, not trap games. A trap game would be a lowly SEC opponent or upstart OOC opponent.
Tech was neither of those. If you want to be a baby and say it was a let down game, fair enough, but it's the job of the coaches to see that doesn't happen, and the job of the senior leaders on the team to perform well even in the face of those circumstances.
We've had neither good coaching nor good senior leadership for two years in a row now.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 11:23 am to 1999
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lord miles
quote:I am a Catholic. I don't pray to Miles. He's just a coach. I have no man love for him.
your coaching god
I was not happy with the defense in 2008. Miles replaced the DC, and things were much improved. I am pleased with that decision.
I was not happy with the offense in 2009. Miles believes that it is not an OC problem. I understand that reasonable minds can differ. Crowton has proved that he is an excellent OC in the SEC. If Miles wants to give him that chance, that is his decision. Of course, it's a decision that he will have to live with.
LSU had a very green QB this year. He had some experience prior to 2009, and he gained more as the season progressed. However, he was young at the beginning of the season, and he was still young at the end of the season. Nevertheless, I saw significant progress.
I don't know that 2010 will be a make or break season for Miles. I can't foresee all of the possibilities. LSU should be much improved. I'm sure there will be consequences if the team fails.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 11:32 am to 1999
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maybe for some of you that were in school when archer and hallman this is good enough,
I don't think that anyone who supports Miles and the program wants to see a return to the dark days of Archer, Hallman and I'll even throw in DiNardo. The results then weren't "good enough" for those of us that sat in the stands during those dark days for the program. I think Miles is a much higher caliber of coach than those guys and is the right guy for LSU.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 12:03 pm to just me
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Nevertheless, I saw significant progress
quote:serious question. in what areas did you see significant progress?
just me
Posted on 1/27/10 at 12:38 pm to just me
quote:But of course, that isn't the point.
LSU won the game. LSU beat Tech. Even with Lee at QB, LSU won the game.
Posted on 1/27/10 at 12:42 pm to Lonnie4LSU
quote:It's usually a harbinger of things to come.
It happens all the time. So, stop acting like a close game against an out manned team is some freaking big deal cause it isn't.
quote:Not doom and gloom but realism.
To have a member of the doom and gloom patrol talk to another bout "whiny" is down right laughable.
quote:Will you be a charter member of the March for Miles brigade this year?
BTW, I'm on an LSU forum backing the LSU football team and I don't come here to piss all over them on a regular basis like some do so you might want to look in the mirror when you start with your "weasel" BS.
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