re: I really believe we hear from the vocal minority on the O matter

I guess we would have won an sec title if we had jimbo last year huh? What a joke. He went 6-6 in a worse league and with better talent than every team he played besides Bama and clemson maybe. What about herman? He did average at Texas last season. Who do you think would have accomplished a title last year with the problems we had? Sure, we lost to troy, and that's unacceptable no mtater the case, but it happened, has happened to every coach, and will happen in the future. Notre dame was a fluke and even they know it, we screwed up in the dbackfield and allowed it to happen. I'm not happy with 9-4, but I am realistic, and I do understand that it was a challenging season last year. Ed orgeron deserves another season. The players love him and playing for him, our coaches love coaching for him, the only people that have a problem with him are a portion of our fanbase that seem to want his head on a platter no matter what after his first full season.

It's kinda easy to improve a texas team that was horrible the season before. What bowl game did they play in btw? Which game did LSU play in? We had serious issues in the trenches, thanks less miles, and our qb was below average and was never one we could rely on to win us a game, thanks les miles and cam cameron. Throw in our best defensive player fricking off in the offseason and not being full strength or playing to his ability the entire year too. Orgeron should not be run off for going 9-4 in his first full season with the schedule we played and the problems we had, period.

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So you’re saying Les told O not to get DLinemen?

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How can you assume something so dumb? What's wrong with you? That's not what I said or inferred.

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Because that’s 1. Bull shite. (

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Well, of course, it is because that's not what I said. Apparently, you have a severe problem with reading comprehension or something.

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(Les brought in O to do exactly that)

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As I said in the very next paragraph below, O was brought in by Les Miles and hired because of his excellent and incomparable reputation as being a great recruiter and a hell of a defensive line coach after Miles had snatched him away from Dan Mullen who trying to convince O to become his new Defensive Coordinator.

Nonetheless, O wasn't brought in though to do Miles's job for him, no matter how hard you try to paint it that way to vilify coach O today. Give me a damn break. Sorry, but that's not the way it works and certainly not the way it worked.

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2. Irrelevant because last class was Os starting in October. He could have gone after some JUCOs and didn’t.

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What do you mean, he signed three Jucos in this last signing class, one defensive end/outside linebacker, one offensive tackle, and one offensive guard.

In the class before, O didn't have time to bring in any Jucos since he didn't become the official head coach until in January of 2017 and by that time, there were no decent Jucos available left that late in the game. Not to mention, that there wasn't much time remaining before national signing day either.

Damn, this conversation is so dumb that it blows my mind how ill-informed many of you Einstein's are. All of that and you still couldn't find anything legitimate to blame on O even though you tried like hell.

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We had serious issues in the trenches, thanks less miles

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sigh.......
dline players the day miles was fired.... 
2016 dline roster  

key  
alexander  
bower  
clark  
Anthony  
gilmore  
godchaux  
harper  
herron  
lacouture  
lawrence  
Logan  
neal  
valentine  
Washington  

Oline players the day miles was fired.. 

Clapp all sec 
allen 
aziz 
Boutte all sec 
Brumfield 
campbell 
cushenberry 
dodd 
malone 
magee 
pocic rimington award finalist all sec 
smith 
weathersby 


educate yourself instead of regurgitating bullshite rant myths.


there are programs that take half that talent and get better results.


o was given a chance.


he took a program THAT HE SAID," WAS GOING TO BE A PLAYOFF TEAM" OF
52 4 and 5 star athletes
the highest priced OC
the highest priced DC
returning senior qb
all sec rb
the easiest schedule since the turn of the century

AND HE LOST 4 GAMES.

by week 5 of his 1st season without the interim tag, he had already had..
the worst loss in the 100+ year.
history of the lsu vs msu game.
the 1st loss to a mid major since the turn of the century.


he's proving to be the same exact coach he was at ole miss.

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since he didn't become the official head coach until in January of 2017 a

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if by January you mean November 26th 2016 then sure.

o had the interim tag removed in November.

Go read Dave Aranda's two-part interview with the Advocate to find out why your idiotic list is utterly absurd and a complete and utter waste of time.

Indeed, the only reason why Moo State scored 37 points on Aranda's defense and then Aranda's defense was unable to stop Troy's State's big running back in those two games last season was because of a severe lack of depth in those two games, which is exactly what I said at the time, by the way.

Anyway, if you still don't believe me, then go read Dave Aranda's two-part interview with the Advocate. To anyone with at least half a brain, it was very obvious that we had a severe lack of depth last season due to the fact, as I also said at the time, that Les Miles left O high and dry in the trenches. Meanwhile, Aranda confirms it, which was always very obvious nonetheless.

So you can deny it exactly as you also did at the time. I couldn't care less what you stupidly believe. As it doesn't really matter, as you are always going to demonize O on the rant regardless of the truth.

So according to you, only the head coach recruits, let me rephrase, gives the ok to recruit a certain player?

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Assistant coaches and recruiting coordinators do not make any recruiting personnel decisions. Only the head coaches make those decisions because it is their jobs that are on the line.

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Am I understanding this correctly? If that's the case, then who should we point the finger at in regards to how we finished in this last recruiting class? Miles (like you blame every thing on) or the actual current head coach?

You just said it's the head coach that makes those decisions, did you not?

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It's kinda easy to improve a texas team that was horrible the season before. What bowl game did they play in btw? Which game did LSU play in? We had serious issues in the trenches, thanks less miles, and our qb was below average and was never one we could rely on to win us a game, thanks les miles and cam cameron. Throw in our best defensive player fricking off in the offseason and not being full strength or playing to his ability the entire year too. Orgeron should not be run off for going 9-4 in his first full season with the schedule we played and the problems we had, period.

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Score!!!

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he doesn't okay anything

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He makes the decisions

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These contradict.

If the head coach compiles a board and all that, who is ultimately responsible for the recruiting class a school brings in? The recruiting coordinator or the actual head coach? Because you just pointed out it's the head coach's responsibility by saying

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the lack of depth LSU suffered from last season and that cost us to lose at least two of those games last season was the fault of Les Miles, as he was the head coach who left O high and dry.

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So who's to blame for this recruiting class finishing 15th? The last time we finished with that low, it was ranked 21 in 2002, prior to Miles' tenure.

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had exactly nothing whatsoever to do with the Moo State lost and the Troy State lost.

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I didn't say it did.

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that recruiting class O just finished with meets our needs and overall is a very good class.

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The last time we finished anywhere near that ranking was 16 years ago.