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re: I really believe we hear from the vocal minority on the O matter

Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78072 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:35 pm to
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Well unlike you I always give credit where credit is due and always place blame only on those most responsible.


You are blaming the Troy Loss on Les Miles.

frick off wih your week arse shite.

You’re trying to blame O losing 9 games in year 3 at Ole Miss on Cutliff

You’re full of shite.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:38 pm to
Plus SC still hasn't answered why O's defense at OM got worse every year he was there, then got much better once he left.

Specifically, their run D was horrid in his last season, allowing 200 yards a game. That's his fricking unit and it was the worst unit on the team. There's supposed to be gradual improvement as O adds his own players, and under O it was the exact opposite.

I'd like an answer for this. I imagine this was someone else's fault.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

So he improved the team by not being as bad as we thought they would be after we looked like shite for the first half the season...


The only reason we lost the Moo State and Troy State games was that O was left with a severe lack of depth in the trenches by his predecessor, your idol, Les Miles.

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There is 0 excuses for Troy. Les Miles didn’t frick up the offense and score 0 points in the first half. 24 points isn’t insurmountable against a fricking SunBelt team.


You're utterly absurd, we didn't lose either of those two games because of offense. We lost those two games because Dave Aranda's defense couldn't stop Moo State from scoring 37 points on us and because Dave Aranda's defense couldn't stop a very good 12 & 2 Troy State team from scoring 24 points on us because Les Miles left O's team high and dry in the trenches, which besides the defense also adversely impacted the offensive line as well. Not to mention, that our best offensive player for the last two seasons didn't even play a down in that Troy State game.

So go fly a kite and stop impressing me with how football unknowledgeable you are.

Moreover, after Canada couldn't score in the first half of the Troy State game, O relented in the second half and let him have Myles Brennan in the game for the full third quarter as Canada kept insisting. However, after Canada and Myles were still ineffective, coach O reinserted Etling back into the game who then almost led LSU to a come from behind victory.

Nonetheless, what do you expect? Canada's offense was crap in the Moo State game and again in the Syracuse game. Hence, O was very justified to try to light a fire under Canada's arse because Canada was doing a very piss poor job. Hell, I don't blame O one bit. After all, he has to produce or be fired.

Moreover, Canada didn't cry to Alleva to stop O from meddling, which is absurd. Instead, Canada went over O's head to Alleva to get O off his arse, and after he did that the rest of the coaching staff hated Canada for being the disloyal crybaby that he was. Plus Canada had a bad habit of always talking down to the players that coach O detested as well and Canada also hated Ensminger.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:22 pm to
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You're utterly absurd, we didn't lose either of those two games because of offense. We lost those two games because Dave Aranda's defense couldn't stop Moo State from scoring 37 points on us and because Dave Aranda's defense couldn't stop a very good 12 & 2 Troy State team from scoring 24 points on us because Les Miles left O's team high and dry in the trenches


Blame Aranda, check.
Blame Miles, check.
Blame Canada, check.

The lengths you go through to absolve Orgeron of any and all culpability is impressive.

It's a damn shame that you couldn't turn this type of devotion into something useful.

You never did explain why his OM defense got worse every year he was there despite him adding his own players. I'm very excited to hear the spin job on that.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8003 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:27 pm to
If there was a ever a majority of O supporters, they would have been found here.

Any sane human being knew that O didn't deserve the LSU job. With his history, he didn't even deserve the Vandy job. Coach O was 3-21 in conference before getting the LSU job. If you think that is qualified for any power 5 job, you need your head checked

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:28 pm to
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Bullshite on your bullshite, O didn't officially become LSU's head football coach until in January 2017.


you have no fricking clue what you're talking about.












Ed Orgeron wasnt hired in January.

he had months to address depth issues.

its amazing how everyone but you knew he was hired in late November.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:31 pm to
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Do you think sales said “No Ed, we’re not taking DLinemen?”


Don't have a clue what "sales" is but anyway the assistant coaches recruit whoever the hell they are assigned to recruit. It's not rocket science you Einstein.

In you geniuses' world, the buck always stops with O, even when Miles is obviously responsible for the problem, the buck always stops with O.

Meanwhile, there wasn't a player on the team that wasn't ready and prepared to play last season and on the defensive line, all of them did have to play last season. However, we still didn't have nearly enough depth, and if you don't believe me then go read Dave Aranda's two-part interview with the damn Advocate.

Unless you are just trying to say that Dave Aranda is just a piss poor coach and is making lame excuses.

Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

The lengths you go through to absolve Orgeron of any and all culpability is impressive.



I'm still trying to figure out why this bothers you so much. A random guy on a message board knights for O and you get triggered hard. Rick and others....same thing.

Why?????
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:33 pm to
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Well unlike you I always give credit where credit is due and always place blame only on those most responsible.

Hence, I give Nick Saban all the credit for our Natty in 2007 and Miles all the blame for those two losses last season to Moo Stae and Troy state. 



holy shite. there is no way you actually believe this shite.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:34 pm to
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Meanwhile, O could go undefeated for 15 straight years and then lose a game in his 16th year, and those coach O haters will still be their miserably waiting in the wings to say, "see I told you Alleva was incompetent for hiring that loser O. See, see, I told you so, but you morons would listen to me!"



we just had a coach have the most accomplished tenure in lsu history and youre doing nothing but shitting on him.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

outside of qb and maybe ot.


yea cuz it isn't like the QB position is important or any thing.

I'll stand by my original statement....you yourself just validated what I said "without making shite up."
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170368 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:35 pm to
How does Saban get credit for 2007? His last season with LSU was a 2004 season with not much to write home about.

Almost all Miles recruits at that point.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

'm still trying to figure out why this bothers you so much. A random guy on a message board knights for O and you get triggered hard. Rick and others....same thing


you act like you didnt do the same thing during the last regime except on the separate side.

if anyone posted anything positive about the last regime youd be there making personal attacks towards miles.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

I'm still trying to figure out why this bothers you so much. A random guy on a message board knights for O and you get triggered hard. Rick and others....same thing.


Why does it trigger you when people knight for a much more successful head coach?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

ea cuz it isn't like the QB position is important or any thing




he had the most accomplished tenure in lsu history without great qb development.

quote:

I'll stand by my original statement....you yourself just validated what I said "without making shite up."



no i didnt. i proved how ignorant your claim was. we didnt have a player development issue at lsu during miles tenure. we had a problem with 1 position being developed.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

Why does it trigger you when people knight for a much more successful head coach?





Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

you act like you didnt do the same thing during the last regime except on the separate side.



Pleeeeeeeezzzzzz. You're dreaming dude and making shite up to cover your own obsession. I was NO where near as bad as you've proven to be since O was hired. Not even close.

No how no way....not even in the same league.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

you geniuses' world, the buck always stops with O, even when Miles is obviously responsible for the problem, the buck always stops with


do you give miles credit for the wins in 2016 & 2016?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47984 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Pleeeeeeeezzzzzz. You're dreaming dude and making shite up to cover your own obsession. 


bullshite. im not the only one mentioning it.

from 2011-2016 let anyone post how many nfl players were from lsu and you'd be in there calling miles a retard and other personal attacks.

quote:

was NO where near as bad as you've proven to be since O was hired

bullshite.

do you ever see me making personal attacks towards O or do i post facts about his coaching career?
Am i calling O a retard? you making personal attacks is infinitely worse than me posting facts about o's head coaching career.
stop acting like you werent shitting all over miles and the lsu program from 2011-2016.
you did. youre just like all the other hypocrites that are so shocked and thinks its bad to question the coach after years of you bashing an actual accomplished lsu coach.
quote:

o how no way....not even in the same league


no shite because yours was worse.

to this day you calm miles a fricking retard,a bafoon, and an idiot while i never make personal attacks towards O and just bring up his coaching career.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

If miles is such an inferior coach to O, why was he able to turn around a worse situation at Oklahoma State than O had at ole miss?


I went through all of this with you already. Don't you ever have something new or at least something more interesting?

Anyway, whatever you are smoking package it up and put it for sale, you will be very rich very fast.


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