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re: I never understood the knock on Steve Ensminger this season...

Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by Ooh Wee Ooh
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:41 pm to
30 years experience and 0 points against Bama

Hopefully 31 years will get us a TD or 2
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:42 pm to
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How bout the Dropsies? I bet LSU led the SEC in dropped passes this season



Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:43 pm to
What I’ve noticed that all these threads have in common is this: it is not Coach E’s fault, it is not Joe Burrow’s fault. The rest of the players on offense? Yeah, it’s their fault, bc they suck and couldn’t start for Arkansas State.

Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:45 pm to
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He didn’t saying our passing stats were skewed. He said our offensive stats were. We scored 41 points in OT alone.

That’s basically an entire second game worth of points, and it would have been our what? 3rd highest scoring on its own?

It raised our PPG by 3.15 points PPG which is a huge jump.

Between 7 OTs and Tracy being a machine and averaging just over 2 FGs a game, our PPG was pretty much padded to hell and back.
Parsing hard there, Bud

What percentage of the points to you take away from Florida, Georgia, and Bama for their cupcake stat boosters?

OT stats against a tough ranked team seem defensible to most folks.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:49 pm to
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What I’ve noticed that all these threads have in common is this: it is not Coach E’s fault, it is not Joe Burrow’s fault.


Objectively false.

The issue is solely blaming one thing which is what the "scheme" simpletons are doing. This isn't close to being fact.



Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:50 pm to

Here it is again - in case you missed it

Please quit posting this garbage. The CFB Filmroom prints do-it-yourself stats from random posters.

Debunked 2 years ago as unreliable. There are NO official drop stats available from LSU, the NCAA, or the SEC.

And if you believe LSU has the second lowest drop rate, you should watch and comment on volleyball or synchronized swimming - not football. LOL !!!

Check your source - MOST (almost ALL) of the articles on CFB's main page are 4 months to 1 year old - sheesh!

Here's a link to CFB - check it out
LINK
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 1:55 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:50 pm to
When you’re looking at stats per Game that much extra football will greatly skewe the number.

Don’t get high and mighty about weak opponents we scored 42 vs Rice.

I’m saying we scored 41 points in bonus time. That’s 7 more drives from the 25. That’s an antire game worth of points without increasing the # of games.

We’re second in the country in OTs points by a laaaaaarge margin. A&M is first

Everyone has cupcake boosters, not every one gets that much OT.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28424 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:50 pm to
I don’t care who the HC or OC is, and I don’t have the schematic answers, but I do expect LSU’s offense to finish in the Top50 offenses in the nation. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for and certainly something that will be a necessity if we ever hope to compete for titles again.

Now, what defines a Top50 Offense? That’s debatable, but I’d start with average points scored and average yards per game. I’d probably also include red zone TD percentage and turnovers as indicators of a successful offense.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 1:52 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299689 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:51 pm to
Mid season we were up there with drops. Passing game improved a lot towards the end of season
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79430 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:55 pm to
I say Aim higher than top 50

There is no excuse not to shoot for top 25 or higher.

We hold the defense to that standard. We need to push the offense as hard as the defense.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:56 pm to
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Please quit posting this garbage.
Triggered much?



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Debunked 2 years ago as unreliable..........Check your source - MOST (almost ALL) of the articles on CFB's main page are 4 months to 1 year old - sheesh!




Stat dated as below
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8:41 AM - 14 Nov 2018
and seems to represent 77% of the season, and actually prior to playing against the season's worst stretch of pass D.


FilmRoom has been in the buisness of recording advanced stats since 2015, but of course posters whose tRant arrival coincides with Burrow's and carry handles like Buckeye Jeaux are legit unbiased.

Here's one on YAC that supports your trashing of LSU WRs and should calm your sheer terror of Joe shade.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:56 pm to
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Mid season we were up there with drops. Passing game improved a lot towards the end of season


CFB Film Room drop stats are still totally unreliable. There are NO drop stats available from LSU, the SEC, or the NCAA. Random CFB posters send in spreadsheets. There is no verification of them. Does not pass the giggle test.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299689 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:58 pm to
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CFB Film Room drop stats are still totally unreliable.


The one I looked at was a couple weeks earlier and we were middle of the pack so yeah, it looks wishy washy
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 1:59 pm to
So because a coach knows more than a random guy on Tigerdroppings, he is automatically worthy of a premiere SEC coordinator position? Why don't you compare his success versus his counterparts in the same industry.
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:01 pm to
Maybe some fans just want more. Maybe some are just really wanting an offense ranked in the top 30 for a change. Is that really too much to ask, while comparing recruiting histories?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299689 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:01 pm to
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So because a coach knows more than a random guy on Tigerdroppings, he is automatically worthy of a premiere SEC coordinator position


That's retarded and no one said it

There's zero reason to give credibility to these "all scheme" pencil pushing geeks, that's the point.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:03 pm to
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FilmRoom has been in the buisness of recording advanced stats since 2015,


And debunked 2 years ago when a reporter found that random posters came up with the stats. No way to verify them. Drops, for instance, have no official stats in the data base. They are the opinion (or whim) of some random dude in his mom's basement. C'mon.

How gullible are you?
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4839 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:04 pm to
So its been scheme all this time with Les Miles and now its players with Ensminger?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299689 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:06 pm to
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So its been scheme all this time with Les Miles and now its players with Ensminger?


Ain't no one said that but you

With Les, I believe it was very poor talent evaluation. That was the main knock on him.

Look what happened Mettenbergers second season? The offense was explosive
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 2:07 pm to
I would consider success, ranking somewhere in the top 30% in the NCAA offensive rankings. Ensminger has not done this in his career. Whoever does not understand the "knock", does not understand success. LSU is not less talented than more than 30% of the teams nationally.
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