re: I must confess that the hype-tards have me expecting a great season from LSU

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So you agree that the coaching isn't top 5

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Lsu absolutely has a top tier staff. Anyone that doesn't see that is a complete imbecile.

Solid coaches and unbelievable recruiters all throughout the staff.

You already shouldn't be taken serious with your lsu opinions but if you don't think lsu has an elite staff than you are even more of a mouth breathing retard than I originally thought.

Some moron posted this lie:

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Where were you the second half of last season? We won 4/5 and took the fifth to OT doing just that.

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LSU won 2 of their last 5 games. That's right, 2 wins, 3 losses.

The ONLY times LSU won 4/5 games last season were in the beginning and middle, when LSU played a combination of these juggernauts:

Sam Houston State
ULM
New Mexico State
Kentucky

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Lsu absolutely has a top tier staff. Anyone that doesn't see that is a complete imbecile.

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Let me see if I understand.

CLM- came up coaching on the offensive side of the ball and was also an offensive coordinator yet the offense under achieves and I don't think it will ever be fixed.

CCC- been fired from almost every coaching job he's had since getting fired at Indiana

CKS- has been fired or demoted from almost every job since leaving Nebraska.

Now if this is a top tier staff I would hate to see a horrible 1

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There would be absolutely nothing wrong with a 9-3 season and a new years day bowl victory.

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maybe for a Michigan man

Coach Les Miles:

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came up coaching on the offensive side of the ball and was also an offensive coordinator

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Yes, he is a former offensive coordinator, who studied under Bo Schembechler, and as a member of that staff, never posted a losing season. and lost only 24 conference games in 20 years... as the head coach of LSU, Miles has likewise never posted a losing season, and has lost only 24 conference games in 10 years.

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the offense under achieves and I don't think it will ever be fixed.

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With Jimbo Fisher as OC:
With Jamarcus Russell as QB:
............Points Per Play... Yards Per Play
2005 - 27th................... 46th
2006 - 7th..................... 5th

With Gary Crowton as OC:
With Matt Flynn as QB:
............Points Per Play... Yards Per Play
2007 - 9th.................... 34th

With Jarrett Lee/Jordan Jefferson as QB:
............Points Per Play... Yards Per Play
2008 - 33rd.................. 67th
2009 - 44th.................. 87th
2010 - 31st.................. 68th

With Greg Studrawa as OC:
With Jarrett Lee/Jordan Jefferson as QB:
...........Points Per Play... Yards Per Play
2011 - 7th.................... 36th

With Zach Mettenberger as QB:
............Points Per Play... Yards Per Play
2012 - 48th.................. 74th

With Cam Cameron as OC:
With Zach Mettenberger as QB:
...........Points Per Play... Yards Per Play
2013 - 9th................... 12th

With Anthony Jennings/Brandon Harris as QB:
...........Points Per Play... Yards Per Play
2014 - 78th................. 71st

Coach Cam Cameron:

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fired from almost every coaching job he's had since getting fired at Indiana

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You seriously have no idea how the NFL works. After coaching the Chargers for several years, Cameron was offered a head coaching position at Miami... after one season in Miami, the GM who hired Cameron was fired, and his replacement elected to hire his own HC... Cameron then landed in Baltimore, where he coached for several seasons, before tensions with the organization's $120 million franchise quarterback caused his termination.

Production certainly wasn't the cause of his termination, as Baltimore ranked in the top half of NFL offenses every year in which Cameron was the OC.
2008 - 18th Total Yards 11th Scoring
2009 - 13th Total Yards 9th Scoring
2010 - 22nd Total Yards 16th Scoring
2011 - 15th Total Yards 12th Scoring
2012 - 16th Total Yards 10th Scoring

Coach Kevin Steele

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has been fired or demoted from almost every job since leaving Nebraska.

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Now this is the wild card in the bunch... Steele's track record at Clemson isn't enough for me to base any sort of opinion on. He had two great years, following by an abysmal third year culminating in the Orange Bowl beatdown. Otherwise, his tenure as HC for Baylor and LB Coach for Alabama really doesn't tell us jack shite other than he was the position coach for Alabama's strongest defensive unit.

Combine that with Ed Orgeron on the defensive line and Corey Raymond coaching defensive backs, and those are perhaps the best positional coaches in the country, as well as the best collection of recruiters in the country with a roster loaded with talent... namely Godchaux, Beckwith, Adams, and White. In fact, the only concern for the future is depth along the defensive line and at linebacker... a parting gift from the two coaches who were replaced this offseason.

Hope I could clear that up for you.

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When you're missing your starter LG and C... that approach doesn't work so well.

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Way to SPIN it.......

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The only variable is the injuries to the offensive line.

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Well lets see... Miles was an o-lineman and where were all those so-called recruiting classes that Miles has brought in. No backup o-lineman??? Plus the fact they got physically whipped by Bama the week before. And the gameplan and qb play were terrible as usual.... Miles had that team prepared about as well as he did on 1-9-12... Take yur excuses and shove them... Teams all over the country have injuries every week and overcome them.[well quality teams anyway].

Miles learned how to be a head coach from Bo.... he runs a comparable variation of the offense that Bo ran in the '70s and '80s, an offense won almost 200 games.

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Miles was an o-lineman and where were all those so-called recruiting classes that Miles has brought in. No backup o-lineman

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2010 - Elliot Porter, Evan Washington
2011 - Trai Turner, La'el Collins
2012 - Vadal Alexander, Jerald Hawkins, Fehoko Fanaika
2013 - Ethan Pocic, Josh Boutte
2014 - Will Clapp, Garrett Brumfield

Turner obviously went to the NFL prior to last season.. otherwise you have your starting five in Porter, Collins, Alexander, Hawkins, and Pocic, and your depth in Boutte, Fanaika, and Washington.. Clapp and Brumfield were certainly not ready to play as freshmen. I believe one of both of them redshirted this past year.

How many scholarships did you want to use on the offensive line?

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And the gameplan and qb play were terrible as usual..

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Which is the point of this thread... we had terrible quarterback play, and as a result, a terrible gameplan... and with a healthy offensive line, we were able to steamroll some quality teams.