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re: I guess Matt Flynn was better than JaMarcus Russell after all

Posted on 1/2/12 at 7:53 am to
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 7:53 am to
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This is dumb. There is a huge difference between "was" and "is".


Agreed. Flynn has had the reputation of being the hard working backup. This perseverance paid off in college and appears to be working in the NFL as well. Obviously he's talented too, but hard work can take you to another level.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 7:56 am to
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Boy was I wrong on that one.


I was trying to tell people this when he was JR's back-up. It goes to show you that CLM can be wrong too
Posted by bigpetedatiga
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:09 am to
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This thread is a disaster but at least it has provided an easy way to identify the extremely racist


FIFY
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:17 am to
But but but Jamrcus could pass the length of the football field on his knees.
Posted by jdog24116
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2010
413 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:17 am to
Y'all will all defend flynn cause of color always. Just like lee this year. Look outside the box guys
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
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6856 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:22 am to
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jdog24116


Please tell me you are joking, because other wise you are fresh off the tard farm.

If you don't realize that Lee is a better passer than JJ and can read defenses better than you know nothing about football. JJ is definitely the better athlete though.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:23 am to
ALL of you retards really need to move past the first square peg in life's puzzle and begin thinking a bit bigger than just black and white, and that's on both sides of the fence. A well known fact is that this area of the country just can't get out of first gear when it comes to race and move the F on in life. It really is very tiresome.
Posted by Mikebandit
Haters Be Like.....
Member since Aug 2011
738 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:25 am to
please shut yalls dam mouths about racism it has nothing to do with that, and yall just feel the need to bring stupid arse crap like that into these conversations to make yourself feel better, no need for trolls!
Posted by jdog24116
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2010
413 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:30 am to
Exactly and that's why he's starting the national championship and lee isn't.
Not saying jefferson is the better QB idk both are below average QB but I don't want lee going against that defense again.

Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
4076 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:31 am to
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I was trying to tell people this when he was JR's back-up. It goes to show you that CLM can be wrong too


Just like you're still wrong about JR and Flynn in college.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:36 am to
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please shut yalls dam mouths about racism it has nothing to do with that, and yall just feel the need to bring stupid arse crap like that into these conversations to make yourself feel better, no need for trolls!


I beg to differ. It will always be about race to people who constantly have race on their minds, regardless of what side of what argument they are trying to argue for/against. It's the immaturity of the area. Race this, racist that. I keep waiting for the next phase and it never comes. Like you're at a party with a record that is skipping and all in attendance are eiither too oblivious or too drunk to even notice.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
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6856 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:37 am to
Yeah Jamarcus has really shown his talent and intelligence
Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
4076 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:42 am to
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Yeah Jamarcus has really shown his talent and intelligence


Just like you show your intelligence by arguing Flynn was a better QB in college. He is clearly superior at being mature and handling everything when on his own, but JR was still the better QB while at LSU.
Posted by Fububutsy
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jan 2007
4076 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:44 am to
And that's not me saying Flynn was bad, because he was far from it. JR was just that much better.
Posted by Tha Truth
Kenner
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:51 am to
Russell was a far better QB at LSU than Flynn was. Not only did he possess more natural talent than Flynn, Russell also performed better on the field. I love Matt and always will for QBing the NC team but anyone that says that he was better at LSU in anyway is either really dumb or really racist.


It appears as though Flynn will have the better NFL career, but I think he was in a better situation to succeed than Russell was. Flynn was able to learn from the sidelines from a coaching staff that is great with QBs. Russell was drafted by one the absolute worst ran teams in the league with a horrible head coach that didn't want him in the first place. Not sure if any QB could have succeeded in Oakland under the same set of circumstances as JaMarcus faced. The one that actually probably hurt him the most was being drafted #1 overall. If he had slipped in the draft he would have ended up with a better team and having something to prove. Getting all that money and unwarranted sense of entitlement by being taken #1 overall was just what he needed to destroy his career.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/12 at 8:57 am to
The difference between Jamarcus and Flynn boils down to work ethic. Flynn has it and Jamarcus doesn't. JR never applied himself as Flynn did. That was fine in college where raw talent can overwhelm an opponent, but in the NFL where the talent is on a more even playing field there has to be another intangible and that's being a student of the game and applying yourself to it. JR lacked the will where Flynn rose to the challenge and applied himself.
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:08 am to
Russell believed his press clippings and his agent.

Flynn has had the chance to be a back up for years.

When they were at LSU I preferred Flynn, because he knew where the chains were and kept drives alive by running to the chains.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
6856 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:09 am to
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And that's not me saying Flynn was bad, because he was far from it. JR was just that much better


My point was that I, along with many other people, could see that Matt was much smarter and would be a better QB in the future. JR might have been better in college, but it wasn't by that much. You can't just look at stats, JR still had D. Bowe and Buster Davis to get him out of jams. Either way they were both very good QB's for LSU. I just perfer Flynn because the way that he represents LSU is vastly superior to JR
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16572 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:10 am to
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I guess Matt Flynn was better than JaMarcus Russell after all


Boy was I wrong on that one. Flynn's got almost a third of JR's career TD passes today.


Me too Ritt. And Les too.

After JR was drafted No. 1 Les said..."see we were playing the right guy after all."

To be fair JR had a pretty darn good senior year, every bit as good as Flynn's senior year if not better IMHO. Both good college QB's but one had a better work ethic obviously. When you get to the NFL it's a man game and you have to choose to do the work yourself to keep up. Flynn obviously has, and JR obviously has not.
Posted by Tha Truth
Kenner
Member since Apr 2008
417 posts
Posted on 1/2/12 at 9:13 am to
Not defending him for it, but I think being drafted #1 and getting 31M guaranteed is what actually killed his work ethic. Had he went lower in the 1st round, which he probably should have, I think Russell wouldn't have gone down the road that he went. Not sure that Matt Flynn's work ethic would have done anything for him had he went to Oakland instead of a nearly ideal situation that he has in Green Bay. The Raiders were the epitome of horribly ran franchises, dysfunctional in every way possible. Seriously, where else do you find a head coach publicly stating that he did not want the player the owner took #1? Kiffin hated Russell from the beginning and undoubtedly did nothing to help Russell become a better NFL QB.
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