re: I get the feeling from some corners of the LSU specific websites out there...

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I agree with the substance of the original post. Moreover, waging war with Louisiana high school coaches has historically been very counterproductive for the LSU football program. Even apparent victories are pyrrhic, since they result in the alienation of individuals who have tremendous influence over marquee in-state recruits.

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What evidence is there that LSU coaches are waging war against high school coaches.

This is just another Coach bashing thread based on message board inferences because you guys refuse to believe that certain coaches bring anything to the table.

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This is just another Coach bashing thread based on message board inferences because you guys refuse to believe that certain coaches bring anything to the table.

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This was just another chance for GFunk to attack Ensminger. He's done it already and I guess felt the need to come at it from another angle. He's stated his opinion on it over and over again. I guess that's not enough for him.

What I would say is having Ensminger as a part of this staff is very, very, very low on the list of things that determine our success.

Any people who are freaking out by January 9th and this last recruiting class, are CLEARLY overreacting. They are choosing to ignore the many positive things shown on the field and in recruiting that has happened over a much longer period of time.

It's VERY clear that the Toshiro Davis situation had very little to do with what LSU did or did not do. But, GFunk doesn't want to acknowledge that. He want to use it as support for his position that Ensminger should be replaced.

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I apologize if you feel I've disrespected him. I'm not satisfied with the results of the staff as a whole, & as such, I'm willing to sacrifice whom I view is the weakest link in exchange for realizing an improvement regarding the situation I see cause for concern with.

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We all appreciate that you are willing to make a sacrifice that apparently you have really have little or no conrol over.
Would you please be so kind as to tell us exactly how you are able to make this sacrifice happen?
Also a list of your qualifications to make this sacrifice would be helpful too.
Thank you.

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Gray Tiger

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We all appreciate that you are willing to make a sacrifice that apparently you have really have little or no conrol over.
Would you please be so kind as to tell us exactly how you are able to make this sacrifice happen?

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I'm advocating that I feel like a change should be made, & I view it as necessary. I've never-at any point-intimated I have any control over the situation, or that I could impact it in any way.

I'm not sure what section of the left field bleachers you've come out of with your response, but its tinged with sarcasm. Either way, I'm just saying that I think we need an improvement in recruiting, and hiring an upgrade in that department is in my view necessary.

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Also a list of your qualifications to make this sacrifice would be helpful too.
Thank you.

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I didn't know that a requirement of posting on the Rant was a resume that qualified me or anyone else to make personnel decisions regarding FBS AQ conference programs.

Seems like we wouldn't have as many members if that were the case. It also seems like the members who were still around after making the cut you're alluding to wouldn't exactly find any incentive in posting regarding most subjects pertaining to their jobs on a site's public message board.

But hey, thanks for the stock sarcasm and "you aren't a coach, so you shut up," response to my post. I appreciate the fact that you've read a single post in this thread that I've made-that being the most recent-and chimed in. Feedback-positive or negative-is always appreciated.

Brofists,

GFunk

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EarthwormJim

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Believe it or not he is a well respected coach on this staff and plenty of people at LSU have a high opinion of him

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Believe it or not, the proprietor of the website I alluded to in my 1st post made the comment I alluded to in my 1st post on local ESPNRadio. I have "heard" what he has to say regarding it subsequent to that statement he made on air, and the alleged mindset the staff has taken.

As far as what I've heard, its somewhat different than what you evidently have. I assure you I don't depend on my information from Scout & Rivals. None of which I belong to (though I do have a 247 account, admittedly).

Just to point out that I can be a fair-minded guy, I do understand that Ensminger is appreciated by the staff as a talent evaluator, and has made some good ones, on both sides of the ball.

Were I of the opinion that what I've heard of his strengths-again, which aren't fueled by some sagacious internet ramblings-were valuable enough to warrant continued employment as a member of LSU's staff, then I wouldn't hold the opinion that I do.

I am interested in what you have to say, but I am pretty comfortable with what I've heard and whom I've heard it from (cue to "link?" response, obviously. I'm telling you now in advance I don't have any, BTW).

I'm a pretty open-minded guy and not too set in my ways...the type that's going to strive for objectivity. In that respect, I'm willing to be convinced that I'm wrong.

Just don't feel that I am here based on what I know.

We can agree to disagree. I'm perfectly okay with you thinking-or maybe even feeling as if you know-that I'm wrong. I hope you understand.

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I'm not happy with the results we've had on the field

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I hope everyone reads this and lets this sink in so they understand how crazy of a premise you are starting from.

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or on the trails, recruiting-wise

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Again, there is very little to complain about. You could easily make the case that LSU has been the absolute best at identifying talent and getting it on campus over the last couple of years. This year was down from a ranking perspective...and obviously there were a few players that would have made a difference in this class. But prior to that, you really couldn't even make a reasonable argument against LSU's recruiting success. Even this year could easily turn out to be much better than it was ranked.

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That's not an attack. Truth be told, I personally view the opinion I'm sharing-and defending-here as rather pragmatic. Using terms like "dead weight" isn't necessarily used to attack the person, but describe the situation on the staff as a whole.

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The staff as a whole is not only good, it is one of the best.

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I apologize if you feel I've disrespected him.

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I couldn't care less whether you disrespected anyone. My point is that Ensminger has less than 1% to do with the success or failure of LSU. You are so focused in on something you perceive as a weakness, that you are blowing it waaaaaaay out of proportion, wrongly attributing negative events to said perceived weakness, and are willfully ignoring the very many positive aspects of this coaching staff. And, worst of all, you are doing it over, and over, and over again. It's a lame, poorly thought out criticism, that in the grand scheme of things is very minor.

The guy sure was a very good quarterback,
Ensminger.

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You could easily make the case that LSU has been the absolute best at identifying talent and getting it on campus over the last couple of years.

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I agree with you partly. Were I complaining about our ability to evaluate talent, I wouldn't have posted.

As for getting it onto campus the last few years, I disagree. We've had some major misses, but admittedly to speak to a bit of your point, almost all of the major ones were this year.

Miscalculations this year ultimately cost this staff at a minimum 1 5-Star & 2 4-Star players, and we went 0-3 on kids that were generally viewed as in the Top 4-5 in the State in Class of 2012.

That's not a one-year hiccup. That's a major letdown in a year where we had 2 5-Stars & several other major targets & whiffed. On all of them.

Hence my opinion.

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The staff as a whole is not only good, it is one of the best.

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The staff as a whole is one of the best, but has an obvious hole in the boat as it relates to recruiting. We agree, and yet we disagree.

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My point is that Ensminger has less than 1% to do with the success or failure of LSU.

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I tend to agree. Which is why I think we could replace him with someone who impacted our ability to recruit far, far more meaningfully than anything Ensminger is capable of.

It seems that with this statement, you tend to agree that we could easily upgrade our recruiting capabilities by hiring a new horse in that position in the paddock. Someone with such little impact per your assertion tends to make me wonder why they were ever hired in the first place?

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27 total catches between 3 players for 284 yards, less than 2 receptions per game. His contribution as a coach and recruiter is unfortunately something I'm missing from my limited view of the program

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I'm not an Ensminger fan even when he was a QB at LSU.However, I don't blame him for only 27 total catches between 3 players for 284 yds.I think we didn't use the TE's enough but Ensminger doesn't call the plays.Regardless of any opinion on Ensminger,it is coach Miles who has to make a decision about his staff.As for Toshiro Davis,I'll take Alexander any day.Betting 8 to 5, Davis will be an internal cancer for the Texas program within 2 years.

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tiger chaser

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Its people like you that are the damn problem;..let it go..it was just ONE GAME..give it a rest...GET A LIFE...go away...GET THE FRICKING POINT?...

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I love posts like these. Awesome!