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re: I don’t trust Woody to make a good hire

Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:42 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:42 am to
I’m not one to speak clichés but

Keep me posted.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:42 am to
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Money whipping Mulkey does not impress me for a number of reasons- WBB is a money loser, she’s at the tail end of her career, and even the best WBB programs get little attention.



LSU was plastered over the media for the hire. Season tickets were immediately sold at a record pace, and Mulkey is a huge get for fundraising purposes.

You don’t see how hiring the most recognizable head coach in all of women’s collegiate athletics has benefits outside of wins and losses? Of course not. Just like your following points bitch about money paid to foodball coaches with national titles, while failing to appreciate the economic impact on the university, city, and state, when LSU is relevant in football.

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The baseball hire looks good but remains to be seen


She’s literally a top five all time coach, and the second greatest coach alive. This statement is like LSU rehiring Saban and saying before his first season “well the hire looks good, but it remains to be seen.”

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Wade continues to twist in the wind.


Quite the opposite. Alleva let Wade twist in the wind with the suspension. Woodward understands that it’s best for the university to stonewall the NCAA and stick by wade until proven guilty. If they come up with damning evidence, Will gets shite canned and he knows it.

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He was responsible for the worst contract in CFB with Jimbo


It’s not your money, or the university’s money. Not sure why this is an issue. At the time, Jimbo was one of four active coaches with a national title. He paid what he needed to get him out of Tallahassee. $7.5 million a year sounded crazy at the time, but so did $1.1 million for an above average coach from Michigan State in 2000.

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extended Orgeron.


O has turned out to be a piece of shite, but he won a national title. You pay the man as one of four active Coaches with a title (Mac Brown had since returned to coaching). Also, the contract is padded with about 50 pages of “for cause” language. If O had kept winning, $9 mil a year is a bargain. Now that he’s not, LSU gets to negotiate a buyout based on cause. O and his staff will be let go for about $12 million all together.

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throw a cagillion dollars at the latest flash in the pan?


Because of all the coaches he’s hired: Chris Petersen, Buzz Williams, Kim Mulkey, Jimbo Fisher, none are “flashes in the pan.” Jay Johnson might be the closest thing, but he’s consistently won at a P5 program and played for a title there.

In short: your entire post is one of the dumbest, laziest takes I’ve ever seen here.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5601 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:42 am to
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Money whipping Mulkey does not impress me for a number of reasons- WBB is a money loser,

until you are amongst the best of the best in wbb. this can become a net profit for LSU. Worth it.

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He was responsible for the worst contract in CFB with Jimbo

i said this in another thread; every AD in the country is in constant contact with the major boosters any time a major hire is going to be made. they have a financial plan and limits. A&M/Jimbo was a "splash" hire wanted by the boosters. this was not a Woodward went rogue and overspent situation.

relax.
Posted by seabrisket
Member since Sep 2021
131 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:43 am to
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In Mulkey's situation, there is on booster in particular that put up the money and said go get Mulkey.


Is this true? I hope it’s not. I believe in Woodward making the best decision, regardless of what an individual booster thinks.

Fargas’ salary was $700k annually (grossly overpaid), and now Mulkey is $2.5M annually for 8 years. You really think boosters got together and scrounged up $15M to bring Mulkey in? If so let’s reach out to them for an O buyout…
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
14790 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:45 am to
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This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 9:06 pm
Posted by seabrisket
Member since Sep 2021
131 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:48 am to
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Get your head out of the sand.


Well then that’s fantastic! I can’t wait to see how much money the program makes this year!
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2564 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:49 am to
Mulkey will bring in more money. Didn't season ticket shoot up as soon as she was hired?

Baseball, idk enough, but seems like a good hire.

Wade is turning around a dumpster fire of a team. Things take time. He's doing good work.

aTm said go get Jimbo, here's the book. He did what the money train told him to do. If LSU did the same for whatever coach you wanted, you'd be praising him.

O got an extension after having the greatest college football season anyone alive has ever seen. Would have looked weird to not give a raise on that.
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:50 am to
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This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 9:06 pm
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 7:57 am to
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You really think boosters got together and scrounged up $15M to bring Mulkey in? If so let’s reach out to them for an O buyout…


O’s buyout was ready after 2017. Immediately after the 2021 UCLA game, calls went out to get his buyout together.

It’s already over for him.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18983 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:00 am to
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75 million over TEN years for Jimbo is retarded by anyone’s standards


Not A&M's. 7.5M a year is pretty market value these days and their football revenue is through the roof, on top of their billions in booster money that paid for everything with a fricking rounding error on their bank account.

Also, he was given a directive to go get Jimbo with a blank checkbook and did it. They finished in the top 5 last year and lost their starting QB in the first game this year.

If you want to learn about why people are given long-term contracts that look absurd in the present, look at pro baseball. They lock in players to exorbitant contracts for the long term because they know in just a few years those annual salaries will be middle of the road.

Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38043 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:01 am to
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why would you do it for your organization?
Private money. Ask the booster who put up the money.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:02 am to
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I like the mulkey hire, but we overpaid. Period. She was clearly already interested in coming home. So the idea that he somehow lured her here is BS. 2.5 million a year in a sports program that consistently loses money, with an administration that is trying to make athletic revenue part of the general fund is again, retarded



Oh look. I found the guy at the supermarket that haggles with the cashier for discounts on dented cans.

You, and the others like you, who keep bitching about “overpaying” for Mulkey are too stupid to comprehend that the financial impacts of athletics on the university go well beyond ticket and concession sales. Mulkey is a home run, can’t miss, fundraising shark, hire.

Woodward landed her because he knows he’s hiring an all time great coach. Quit acting like he should approach the negotiating table the same way you did when you purchased your used 1999 Dodge Neon.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9959 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:31 am to
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extended Orgeron


If you don't understand the reasons why the head coach at LSU, who won a national championship, got the money he did, then there is no sense arguing with you. I'll leave you to research the "WHY", and hopefully your feeble little mind can figure it out.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168773 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:35 am to
I have much more faith in him than Alleva

I also wanted Radakovich tho
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62644 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 8:38 am to
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WBB is a money loser, she’s at the tail end of her career, and even the best WBB programs get little attention.


The same can be said for college baseball. A winning WBB team, of which I'm no fan, creates 10x more national attention than a winning college baseball program. Nobody outside of a few states really cares about college baseball.

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and extended Orgeron.


O just went 15-0 and won the national championship. Any AD in the country would have given him a raise and an extension. Quit being so obtuse.

This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 8:43 am
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
38043 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 9:01 am to
A lot of people don’t understand that Woody does not necessarily decide who gets what all the time. For the big hires, that’s based on what private money is willing to pay. Where Woody comes in is communication and connections. It’s like being a recruiting coordinator. When we sign a 5 star, they may work out or they may not. But Woody can get a 5 star if the boosters want to put up the money and want a specific person.
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