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re: Hypothetical SEC vs. SEC BCSCG

Posted on 10/9/09 at 11:44 am to
Posted by Slippin Pinkies
The 312
Member since Aug 2009
335 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 11:44 am to
To be honest, I would be perfectly fine with an LSU win over UF, losing to Bama, Bama loses to UF in SEC championship, UF goes to NC and LSU makes it to Sugar Bowl.... a la '06 season
Posted by FishingTiger
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2007
591 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 11:48 am to
A 1 lost LSU team (that doesnt play in the SECCG) wouldnt get in the BCSCG over a 2 lost BCS conference champion. See LSU/Georgia 2007
Posted by MasterofTigerBait
Member since May 2009
7797 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 12:11 pm to
who's going to beat UT twice???
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4120 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

A 1 lost LSU team (that doesnt play in the SECCG) wouldnt get in the BCSCG over a 2 lost BCS conference champion. See LSU/Georgia 2007

A. Yes, a 1 loss LSU team would probably get in over a 2 loss BCS CC, but not a 1 loss. IF Cincy goes undefeated, they would go before LSU, but a 1 loss Cincy probably would not.

B. What the hell does 2007 LSU/GA have to do with A?
Posted by Flyin Tighas
FWB in the 850
Member since Sep 2009
1780 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 12:30 pm to
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To be honest, I would be perfectly fine with an LSU win over UF, losing to Bama, Bama loses to UF in SEC championship, UF goes to NC and LSU makes it to Sugar Bowl.... a la '06 season

Can't happen... loser of SECCG goes to sugar for sure....
Posted by FishingTiger
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2007
591 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

B. What the hell does 2007 LSU/GA have to do with A?


Damn if I know, brain fart
Posted by LSUAce007
Member since Feb 2007
9884 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

loser of SECCG goes to sugar for sure

UGA went over Tennessee in 2007.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 12:54 pm to
If the team who wins the Big 10, Big 12, or Pac 10 have 3 losses and Boise State has a loss, it's a small possibility a one loss SEC team plays the SEC winner
Posted by LSUcc
St. Louis, MO
Member since Feb 2009
2057 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

-LSU beats UF tomorrow
-LSU loses to Bama but finishes 11-1
-Bama goes 12-0 and advances to SECCG
-UF wins out and makes SECCG
-UF beats Bama in SECCG
-There are no undefeated teams

Do LSU and Florida have a shot to face off in the BCSCG?


Other conferences would go nuts...as if they don't hate the SEC enough.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 12:57 pm to
Michigan 2006
Georgia 2007

History suggests that if LSU does not play in the SEC Championship, they will not play in the National Championship simply because they did not win their conference (Georgia) and because people are not going to want to see a repeat of tomorrow's game (Michigan).

If Florida, Alabama, and LSU are ranked top 3, then in your proposed scenario, #4 (or the next highest-ranking conference champion) would jump LSU for the spot in Pasadena.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
36789 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:00 pm to
no, they know ratings will dip and won't allow it. They will put in another one loss team, now if the next best teams have 2 losses it could get very interesting. When you think about it though, they would never leap frog an LSU team that lost to Bama, who in your scenario is in the sec cg. I think a more likely scenario is a redo of the sec cg.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:03 pm to
So replay a game that would have taken place a month prior? For what purpose? If Florida wins the SEC Championship and the National Championship, there will be a huge uproar over why Bama was in the game in the first place. If Florida wins the SEC Championship and loses the National Championship, there will be a huge uproar over who the "real" National Champions are.

How does this make sense?
Florida - National Champions
Alabama - SEC Champions
Posted by Dice
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
896 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:04 pm to
Yes, If UT, Cincy, and Iowa all lose - a 1-loss LSU goes into the game ahead of the rest. Computer polls strong.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88711 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

-UF beats Bama in SECCG
-There are no undefeated teams

Do LSU and Florida have a shot to face off in the BCSCG?


This is so stupid. Anyone remember in '07 how we thought UGA was so stupid for claiming they had an argument for being in the championship game?

THIS IS THE SAME THING

If we don't win the West, we should not play for the title. Pretty easy logic there.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
4011 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

.. and by the way that would be fricking awesome


Ummm...no it wouldn't. Aside from the southern states this would be one of the worst MNCGs ever in terms of ratings. Nobody wants to see a bowl game vs 2 teams from the same conference, let alone the NCG.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4120 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

This is so stupid. Anyone remember in '07 how we thought UGA was so stupid for claiming they had an argument for being in the championship game?

THIS IS THE SAME THING

If we don't win the West, we should not play for the title. Pretty easy logic there.

A. It's not the same thing. UGA argued that they should go instead of us. We didn't play GA. In this scenario, no one is arguing that we should go instead of Fl, but join them. In addition the scenario states we beat them once.

B. In any playoff scenario, a non-conf champion should qualify only if the conf champion qualifies. This scenario meets that test. However, because there are only two teams that could qualify, there shouldn't be a clearly viable alternative if you let this happen. Except for Cincy (because the BE is somewhat suspect) any one loss team from a BCS conf is viable. The only possible two loss team that could get consideration is OK because their losses would have occurred with Bradford out.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12139 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

B. In any playoff scenario, a non-conf champion should qualify only if the conf champion qualifies. This scenario meets that test.


... In this scenario, we don't even win our division.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4120 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

... In this scenario, we don't even win our division.

so what?
Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3205 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:31 pm to
The voters would never let that happen.
But it would be cool
Posted by PinevilleTiger
Pineville, LA
Member since Sep 2005
6356 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:31 pm to
Bradford could beat Texas next weekend, and then Pelini shuts the horns down with his smothering defense in the championship game.
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