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re: How upset will you be if LSU loses to Texas?

Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:25 pm to
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never wanted him fired I only wanted him to let an OC come in and run an offense.


Same

I supported him through the end of 2015. The Wisconsin game changed my mind. I still wish he were at LSU in some capacity. Fundraising, etc

I can disagree with some of the coaches decisions without hating the coach, unlike some here
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:27 pm to
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Now that there are folks on the rant that have concerns about the head coach, the way you had concerns about the head coach 3 short years ago, now you seem to be pissy about people voicing their opinions. The same way you would voice your opinion about the previous head coach.


after 1-9-12 fans should've been concerned. I wanted a change in offense and for CLM just to be the CEO and let the coordinators coach. He couldn't do it though.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:28 pm to
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There is no indication based on what he has done here at LSU that should give anyone a reason to say "he will never win a west title at LSU"

ROFL. He has scored a combined ten points in three combined games (all under a fired OC) against Alabama, the premiere team in the West and the hurdle to LSU winning the West. On top of that, he has never finished higher than third in the West. Since 2000, every coach to have won the SEC West won their first West title within their first two years at their school. Those are all indicators that he may never win the West.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:30 pm to
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Those are all indicators that he may never win the West.



Sure

But only a half glass full type of person would assume it to be 100% and whine constantly about it
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:30 pm to
The odds certainly aren't 100%, but they are heavily stacked against him.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:31 pm to
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I supported him through the end of 2015. The Wisconsin game changed my mind. I still wish he were at LSU in some capacity. Fundraising, etc


I really believed he wanted to change offensively but he didn't. The team didn't seem to give the effort...or have the want under CLM anymore.

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I can disagree with some of the coaches decisions without hating the coach, unlike some here


I do the same with O that I did with CLM. If a coach does something I think is stupid I call him out for it. They are making millions and should be called out but some just said he is a high character man blah blah blah...he is a damn football coach and we want to win. Funny how some of the ones spouting that would suggest we hire Broyles or Freeze
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Since 2000, every coach to have won the SEC West won their first West title within their first two years at their school. Those are all indicators that he may never win the West


Those A&M fans going to want Jimbo fired this year when they don't win the west? We have a much better chance to win the west than Jimbo
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:34 pm to
depends on the manner in which we lose. A good, hard fought game vs a good UT? 3/10

Incompetent offense, bad coaching decisions, etc. 10/10
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296790 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:34 pm to
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I do the same with O that I did with CLM. If a coach does something I think is stupid I call him out for it.


Correct

I support every coach at LSU, but that doesn't mean I agree with everything they do.
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:34 pm to
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Those A&M fans going to want Jimbo fired this year when they don't win the west?

Not sure, I don't really care. Maybe ask on TexAgs?
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:39 pm to
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I really believed he wanted to change offensively but he didn't. The team didn't seem to give the effort...or have the want under CLM anymore.


Les had the opportunity to change the offense but didn’t because he truly thought his style could still win. That’s why it was time for LSU to move on. If Les wanted to change he could have gotten rid of Cam after 2015 and brought in a spread OC and changed.

Idk if what O is doing is going to work but at least it looks like he is trying to make the offense look modern. It never looked like Les was trying. He said a lot of things but it never looked different anytime anyone saw it. The spring game this year looked different and seemed the words O is saying is coming true. The real answer will be this year and I believe we will learn what the ceiling is with O as LSU head coach by the time we get to the end of the year.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33897 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:40 pm to
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Since 2000, every coach to have won the SEC West won their first West title within their first two years at their school. Those are all indicators that he may never win the West.


Wow. That's a hell of a statistic.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:43 pm to
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Les had the opportunity to change the offense but didn’t because he truly thought his style could still win. That’s why it was time for LSU to move on. If Les wanted to change he could have gotten rid of Cam after 2015 and brought in a spread OC and changed.

Idk if what O is doing is going to work but at least it looks like he is trying to make the offense look modern. It never looked like Les was trying. He said a lot of things but it never looked different anytime anyone saw it. The spring game this year looked different and seemed the words O is saying is coming true. The real answer will be this year and I believe we will learn what the ceiling is with O as LSU head coach by the time we get to the end of the year.



I agree 100%
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:51 pm to
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Sure

But only a half glass full type of person would assume it to be 100% and whine constantly about it




No one's assuming anything to be 100%. This is you assuming you know what people think.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:51 pm to
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That's a hell of a statistic.



and completely meaningless
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33897 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:52 pm to
It's as meaningless as any other statistic, such as when people post win/loss records. It's a record of what's happened.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:53 pm to
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No one's assuming anything to be 100%. This is you assuming you know what people think.


your boy Ricky said just last week that O would never win the west....never is 100% correct?
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31961 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:53 pm to
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If you don't believe O can win a title then






He can't even win the west.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:54 pm to
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Ricky said just last week that O would never win the west

We're just a couple of months away from the answer. If O doesn't win the West this year, there is a 100% chance that he never will.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69574 posts
Posted on 6/17/19 at 2:59 pm to
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If O doesn't win the West this year, there is a 100% chance that he never will.


yall are terrible with logic
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