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re: how much more optimistic/excited would you be with a different OC hire
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:21 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:21 pm to SammyTiger
quote:The successful ones don’t.
I’ve never heard a coach hire a coordinator for the other side of the ball and lost “he listens to me” as one of his top qualities.
Nick Saban hated Lane Kiffin.
Sean Payton and Greg Williams hated each other.
Buddy Ryan and Mike Ditka hates each other.
The truth of the matter is that great coaches only care about winning. O made an emotional business decision. Seems to be a trend in Nicholson Dr.
It really doesn’t matter, if the offense stalls this year there will be monster changes coming to the entire Athletic Department.
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Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:28 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:You do realize that Cam Cameron’s offense set offensive records the year before Einsminger right?
Every OC that had been at LSU before him was not able to do what Slinger did. Regardless of who it was against.
How many rushing records did we break in 2015?
quote:Can’t let you get away with this stupid shite.
Slinger missed the early season creampuffs.
Einsminger missed
@Wisonsin who won 10 games
Cupcake Jax State
State at Home
@Auburn who played in the sugar bowl
He also scored 10 in a Florida team that had 5 starters on defense injured
He also managed to hang a goose egg in the biggest game of the year with guys like Leonard Fournette, Derrius Guice, Darrell Williams, DJ Chark, Malachi Dupre, Ethan Pocic and Will Clapp on the roster.
I’m trying to not be a dick about E, but your false narratives are ridiculous.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:40 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:
He improved A&M's offense while he was there. He passed the ball more than Slocum wanted and he was fired. I don't think the A&M QB wen on to have great success. I don't know who the QB at La Tech was but like I said Goff walked onto the field during practice to hire Slinger.
His offenses generated around 200 yards passing a game.
Again ok for the 90s less so now.
His best two years were 1990 at La Tech and 1993 at UGA. That’s a long long time ago
quote:
You are not worth talking to. Which one of Baylor's one win last year made you think they were good? Was it their only win of the season against Kansas? Wow !!!
Lol, so I say RGIII till now and you fake shock and forget about every offense Baylor put out from 2011-2016.
The Briles were unstoppable and they had a bunch of 3 star QBs. Bryce Petty, Nick Florence, Seth Russell. It was all system.
It would be nice if we had a coordinator who could do that.
But maybe we’ll get an Eric Zeir and pass for over 200 yards a game.
Ensminger’s A&M offenses could barely break 2000 yards passing and that wasn’t a huge accomplishment even in the 90s.
This post was edited on 8/26/18 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:47 pm to LSUcajun77
quote:
what they are capable of, maybe he is the best for LSU
Are you saying that he's not the best fit? He may have been the right hire at the right time. He looked good in the time that I've seen him call plays.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:49 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:
0 points against Bama at home! Geaux
So this is your barometer?
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:50 pm to bencoleman
What does best fit mean?
Like gets along with the coaches?
I dont Even know what his fricking offense is and neither did he was he was hired if you believe what they said.
So if “fit” means fits in with the coaching staff sure everyone likes E
If “fit” means fits the players and the team, idk how you say that when we spend decade beating our heads against the wall running a prostyle offense. We hired a guy who ran a fricking west coast offense in the 1990s and called plays in Cams old offense.
Like gets along with the coaches?
I dont Even know what his fricking offense is and neither did he was he was hired if you believe what they said.
So if “fit” means fits in with the coaching staff sure everyone likes E
If “fit” means fits the players and the team, idk how you say that when we spend decade beating our heads against the wall running a prostyle offense. We hired a guy who ran a fricking west coast offense in the 1990s and called plays in Cams old offense.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:51 pm to bencoleman
Considering every other team on their schedule that year scored more points than us its not a terrible one to go by
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:56 pm to bencoleman
quote:
So this is your barometer?
You mean the team everyone is chasing for championships and so far has been the gold standard of college football?
Not a bad Barometer.
What’s yours? Missouri?
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:56 pm to LSUcajun77
Regardless if O works out or not... IMHO you need to seriously consider no longer supporting LSU football or athletics in general. Whether it goes horribly wrong or O wins big the next two years on his way to garnering an extension. Either way you are screwed. The Crimson evil empire is always recruiting for their bandwagon. Might as well you hop on board. Rollllll......
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 12:16 am
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:56 pm to bencoleman
quote:
Are you saying that he's not the best fit? He may have been the right hire at the right time. He looked good in the time that I've seen him call plays.
First of all, I think Steve E did a very solid job filling in as OC in 2016 after all the moves made early in the season but does that exactly make it the best fit as OC? Was it just the games he did in 2016? His past coaching at A&M decades ago? Someone who doesn't argue?
It wasn't even his offense and he had a team with two prime NFL RB's in the backfield. Do you not find it very different installing/vs calling someone else's offense. I am not putting SE down, he did a great job in the interim role although the 0 points vs Bama is sorta concerning
Bad enough the man did not want the job and repeatedly stated it many times before finally stepping up to the plate because O wanted him and had to reason with him multiple times.
Being an OC is also much more than just calling plays but scheming and development at many positions, but most importantly at LSU right now, we need development at the QB position. I hope SE can do it...
Steve is a very smart guy, no one can dispute that. I just find it hard to believe the fix for the LSU football program is someone who hasn't been an OC in over 20 years and has been sitting on the LSU Football staff for the last 8 years...
In the end it all won't matter what Steve does if O sticks his nose in if shite hits the fan, he needs to let his coaches do their job. That will be the best way for him to be successful.
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 12:02 am
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:57 pm to Canwoodtiger
frick you.
People don’t need to treat the HC like the fricking pope to be fans.
Everyone wants what’s best for LSU, we just disagree about what that is.
People don’t need to treat the HC like the fricking pope to be fans.
Everyone wants what’s best for LSU, we just disagree about what that is.
Posted on 8/26/18 at 11:59 pm to Canwoodtiger
Dudes been here 10 years. I would say hes a fan of the program and that doesn't necessarily mean you have to be a fan of the coach
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:04 am to SammyTiger
quote:
You mean the team everyone is chasing for championships and so far has been the gold standard of college football?
Not a bad Barometer.
What’s yours? Missouri
Reading comprehension not your thing huh?
That's ok I see your nonsensical arguments and get a good laugh so please keep it up. If you can't fricking read I don't feel compelled to explain it to you.
Please keep it up its hilarious.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:04 am to Solo Cam
Bad relations between coaches wears thin. Perhaps Bama would have won even more if they had more continuity at OC? Eventually it catches up to the HC and the program. Amazing Saban has balanced it all out with their revolving door at OC and position coaches. But when they get number one class after number one calls that kind of talent can outlast other issues.
Continuity helps. At least professional and humane like relations between coaches helps instead of constant bickering behind doors, ego battles and long term hard feelings. All programs should aspire to harmonious relations between the HC and his coordinators. It did not help Ditka and the Bears when Buddy left. They kept winning regular season but did not reach the SB again after that during Ditka's tenure. Saints suffered defensive lapses after Williams and just recently recovered.
Continuity helps. At least professional and humane like relations between coaches helps instead of constant bickering behind doors, ego battles and long term hard feelings. All programs should aspire to harmonious relations between the HC and his coordinators. It did not help Ditka and the Bears when Buddy left. They kept winning regular season but did not reach the SB again after that during Ditka's tenure. Saints suffered defensive lapses after Williams and just recently recovered.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:10 am to Greace
quote:
Considering every other team on their schedule that year scored more points than us its not a terrible one to go by
LSU hasn't beaten Bama since 2011 and have had only a couple of decent showings. I'm saying LSU not scoring on Bama isn't the best example and I question a person's objectivity that uses it in an argument.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:12 am to Greace
Maybe he should have made the decision I am suggesting much sooner:). I am not big O fan either. I am on the fence my self. But the constant bitching and whining does no good. 99.999% of the opinions on this board don't matter whatsoever.
The top 100 of the TAF dictates policy. If they set the bar at 6, 7 or 8 wins or early buy out for O that is what is going to happen. Alleva is pretty much a puppet right now and has been. The real powers that be will decide what happens. And how about if O does go out and exceed expectations. Not saying he will but just being hypothetical. Are some y'all are going to lose your minds and burn your P&G stuff if he gets an extension? Actually I would not be surprised if some here would LOL!
The top 100 of the TAF dictates policy. If they set the bar at 6, 7 or 8 wins or early buy out for O that is what is going to happen. Alleva is pretty much a puppet right now and has been. The real powers that be will decide what happens. And how about if O does go out and exceed expectations. Not saying he will but just being hypothetical. Are some y'all are going to lose your minds and burn your P&G stuff if he gets an extension? Actually I would not be surprised if some here would LOL!
This post was edited on 8/27/18 at 12:20 am
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:15 am to bencoleman
2012 and 2014 performances should have been good enough to win. Last year were decent and at times LSU during the game out played them. Unfortunately that did not happen for 60 mins. 2016 the D definitely showed out just not the offense obviously. 2013 second half and 2015 were bad outings, very bad!.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:19 am to SammyTiger
Not saying to treat him like a Pope. Just not trashing him or ANY HC like a bunch of douchbags. And no...not everyone here wants LSU to be successful. There are idiotic POS who think they are fans but are that stupid. And Gump imposters of course. Negatigers and the most idiotic Gumps are the same ilk. Just the Negatigers are so stupid and worthless they can't understand how similar they are to their Gump step brothers and brother in laws.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:24 am to Canwoodtiger
Why shouldn’t we trash him?
He’s a grown arse man being paid millions.
He did everything he could to get this job.
If he has done a subpar job he doesn’t get gold stars. This isn’t kindergarten.
He’s a grown arse man being paid millions.
He did everything he could to get this job.
If he has done a subpar job he doesn’t get gold stars. This isn’t kindergarten.
Posted on 8/27/18 at 12:29 am to SammyTiger
If it does not work, it just doesn't. No need to act like stupid children over it. So just because someone makes millions they should be trashed because they did not work out. That is the mentality of losers who hate not being in a successful position in life. I guess you are what you are (Not you necessarily just folks in general).
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