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re: How many of you really don't like the idea of lining up and raming the ball

Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by TigerTreyjpg
Monroe, LA
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:36 pm to
Put me down for a guy as LOVING the idea of lining up in a single back formation - long as Fournette is the back. Actually, not only does a telegraphed Fournette ramming of the ball not bother me but a single back line up, but neither does the same play from a single wing, I, power I, heavy, stacked, bunched, wishbone, broken bone, veer, pro set, single wing, double wing, chicken wing, cobia/ling, or any of those those Spurrieresque trickeration formations teams filled with sissies sometimes employ on like punts and such. A Wildcat with Fournette as QB falls into the same category. None of that bothers me, long as Fournette's the back.

Furthermore, I think we should use a larger telegraph pole. I think, again, assuming Fou, well, you know, he should break huddle, then, before getting set, Fournette being allowed to survey the situation, point to a defensive player, and holler out "based on what I know about you defensive scheme, you supposed to be the one to tackle me, cause I'm finna run right there (as he points). Based on what I'm seeing though son, you don't have the chest to do that. We can do this a couple of ways. You can try your levelheaded best to stop what you can't, and wind up lookin a lil silly, or, either feign injury or get the hell outta my way. If you make me work too hard, I'ma have to make you pay."

Posted by dboyback
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:41 pm to
Yea we don't like running fournette and guice. Ok dude go back to bed you need a nap. It's like saying you don't like winning. It's ok to say we need to throw the ball more.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 5:56 pm to
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LSU had the better offense.


Against Bama???? OK..........
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:11 pm to
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Just a complete fluke that the games with the bulk of the games with that 3 wide set are the ones we got our heads beat in and we're behind the entire game.



Are you kidding?

The 3 wrs set was the leading set in 10 games and for the entire season it was our most used set at 49%.
My god you look this shite up.

Dg was right. Yall just spout ignorant bullshite that easily refuted by facts.

here is link to an article talking about how the bullshite narrative of lsu offense.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 6:14 pm
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:17 pm to
I like it when it works but you have to have balance to loosen up the defense. I mean, did whoever was calling plays at Alabama last year really think we're going to just line up and run the ball like we did against Auburn?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:17 pm to
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The only way I will believe that is if they consider Jeter in that 3WR. which I dont considering we have the #1 WR in is class sitting on the bench




Youre wrong and thats the problem. We have a set of lsu fans that refuse to believe facts that are easily accessible just because its goes against their opinion of our offense.
LINK

Here is alittle qoute that discribes you to a t....
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Because the same old narratives and biases that fans and the media keep repeating are every bit as silly and stubborn as the beliefs they ascribe to Miles. It's just repeating the same thing over and over again, kind of like how people think LSU is just running an I-formation dive over and over again.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:17 pm to
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I like it when it works but you have to have balance to loosen up the defense. I mean, did whoever was calling plays at Alabama last year really think we're going to just line up and run the ball like we did against Auburn?




We tried throwing the ball against bama.
Harris went 6-19.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:19 pm to
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We tried throwing the ball against bama. Harris went 6-19.


WE sure did.. 6-19??? What a joke.. BUT .. Its WHEN you pass... This is something about FOOTBALL YOU will NEVER get....
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73771 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:22 pm to
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We tried. Harris went 6-19


As I just pointed out in the other thread..

Still better than a zillion carries for 30 yards.

At least scored a TD and got in fg range via the pass.. (when the game was still close) also got a nice couple pass interference first downs as well. So that was nice.. and better than constantly running into that front 7.

Harris made some good throws in this game, some not so good.. but we actually did move the ball via air better than on the ground.. but whatever.. how dare anyone question it. He was definitely playing hurt though, you could tell it limited his ability to sweep by lineman in the backfield.

Go rewatch the game on youtube. Watch how we continued to run right into a wall.. and at times the pass still picked us up a first down. A couple of other effective plays were some zone reads I believe. These were effective, but would have been more effective had Harris not been limited with an injury.

It's not about trying to run a mixture of run or pass.. it's about attacking a team's weaknesses.. or at least not playing right into their strength. Some games are justified running all over an inferior team.. however, against Bama, it was pretty awful.

Fournette averaged 1.6 yards per play.. he did have a late meaningless TD I believe?

31 yards on 19 carries.. neat..

Harris through the air avg 6.7 yards.
Harris on the ground avg 4 yards per play

As a team we avg 2.1 yards on the ground. A total of 54 yards..

The receivers avg 21.3 yards per reception I believe.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:27 pm to
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Still better than a zillion carries for 30 yards.


No its not.


If youre a head coach and your already struggling 1st year starter gets hurt and is clearly hobbled do you keep letting him drop back on a gimpy leg behind an oline thats getting manhandled and risk losing him for the year or do give the ball to the best rb in cfb and hope he can break one?

Youre making these decisions with hindsight. Harris was struggling badly in the Bama game and was limping. He connected on 6 passes with 1 being a prayer he threw up for grabs on the sideline. There isnt a coach worth a shite in that situation that doesnt feed LF and hope he can make a play.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 6:32 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:40 pm to
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Harris was struggling badly in the Bama game and was limping


He wasn't limping on that GREAT 1ST drive was he??? Bottom line is that Miles went into that game SCARED of what the Bama D would do against his offense.. The 1st drive proves it... Go back and look at the 1st three plays... The game was OVER at that point... Trying to pass when you HAVE to is one thing... Trying to pass when the D is NOT expecting it is another........
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:55 pm to
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The 1st drive proves it... Go back and look at the 1st three plays...
Run, pass, sack .
WTF are you saying?
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
12778 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:58 pm to
I don't necessarily disagree with that. But you have be somewhat creative or deceptive in doing it.

We had leads on Miss St and Fla and played both of those teams right back into the game by not getting 1st downs in the 2nd half.

Eta: to answer your question, I love the smash mouth style. But it is frustrating when they have an answer for it.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 7:01 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/20/16 at 6:58 pm to
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Run, pass, sack . WTF are you saying?



bullshite. Look again....
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:13 pm to
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bullshite. Look again...
No link? Of course not as you parrots never have any except another idiotic Rant post
You look again
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20151 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:14 pm to
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If youre a head coach and your already struggling 1st year starter gets hurt and is clearly hobbled do you keep letting him drop back on a gimpy leg behind an oline thats getting manhandled and risk losing him for the year or do give the ball to the best rb in cfb and hope he can break one?



Jesus, Rick, our coaching staff is paid many millions of dollars to, you know, actually figure out ways to move the ball. That includes contingency plans in case important players get hurt or are ineffective. And that also includes real-time adjustments based on what's actually occurring on the field.

The "Harris was hurt so let's just hand off all game" excuse is just pathetic.
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
216476 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:16 pm to
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No link? Of course not as you parrots never have any except another idiotic Rant post


OK.. Got me there.. But the whole game seems like A BLUR as far as LSU'S offense goes... LF RIGHT, LF LEFT, LF with ZERO gain, LF with a LOSS on the play.... You get the Idea....
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:19 pm to
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LF RIGHT, LF LEFT, LF with ZERO gain, LF with a LOSS on the play.
I posted elsewhere 22 actual passes called out of 45 plays.
The # of plays spells defeat without benefit of of numerous turnovers.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216476 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:25 pm to
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I posted elsewhere 22 actual passes called out of 45 plays. The # of plays spells defeat without benefit of of numerous turnovers.


Like you said... Bama DOMINATED LSU on the lines.... They KNEW what was coming and the avalanche started.......... And they not only BEAT US... They Beat us DOWN and it had a HUGE effect on the team for the next game.......
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20151 posts
Posted on 7/20/16 at 7:37 pm to
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f youre a head coach and your already struggling 1st year starter gets hurt...



Yea those first year starting QBs really struggle.

6 of the last 7 national champs have had first year starting QBs.

3 of the last 5 QB Heisman winners have been first year starters.
This post was edited on 7/20/16 at 7:40 pm
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