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re: How many of you really don't like the idea of lining up and raming the ball

Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:45 am to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:45 am to
Your questions are irrelevant to the topic. I don't care what firmations LES uses. I want results. NOT excuses. Which you are full of. Bottom line is that LSzu got manhandled in November last year and if he doesn't change some things it will happen again.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:47 am to
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Your questions are irrelevant to the topic. I don't care what firmations LES uses. I want results. NOT excuses. Which you are full of. Bottom line is that LSzu got manhandled in November last year and if he doesn't change some things it will happen again.


Exactly. You dont know shite about schemes or techniques or nuances of football. My questions are relevant because you act like i only know stats i use stats because they ARE FACTS. That doesnt mean im not extremely knowledgeable about football.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 10:49 am
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:48 am to
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Thats in no way a boom. Not one of those qbs were young. They were juniors or older.



My point is you can be very inexperienced and be successful in the SEC West. Regardless of age all of these guys have minimal to zero playing time and can step right in. Something we cannot attest to here at LSU and that is a problem
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:50 am to
I have said here numorous times that you know your shite. But there are times you act like an a-hole when someone disagrees with you. Like a little kid. THATS why I frick with you. I know a ton about football. You don't want to see that?? It's on you. I feel comfortable in my skin....
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:53 am to
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If that's the case then why dont all these rookie qbs in the nfl play well?


I hope you are not comparing college to pros.LOL

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If thats the case then why dont you have all these redshirt freshman and true sophomores playing well in the sec?



There have been a few so wtf are you even talking about? It doesn't happen often because most of the time they are sitting behind an upperclassman.That does not mean they cannot step in and be a serviceable QB though.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:53 am to
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My point is you can be very inexperienced and be successful in the SEC Wes

And thats a point i never disagreed with. I never once said inexperienced qbs dont usually play well in the sec.
I said YOUNG and INEXPERIENCED qbs in the sec dont usually play well and my point stands.
Ive never disagreed with 1st year starters playing well. I disagreed with the notion tbat yojng and inexperienced qbs playing well are not the outliers and its something only lsu deals with.

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Regardless of age all of these guys have minimal to zero playing time and can step right in
Because they had years in cfb.

Ate you really saying there shluldnt be much difference in the production of a redshirt freshman thats a 1st year starter and a 5th year senior thats a 1st year starter? Because thats what it looks like youre saying and i know houre more knowledgeable than that
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Something we cannot attest to here at LSU and that is a problem


Thats every where in the sec . Not just lsu. Yojng and inexperienced qbs dont usually play well in the sec. Not just lsu.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:55 am to
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Ate you really saying there shluldnt be much difference in the production of a redshirt freshman thats a 1st year starter and a 5th year senior thats a 1st year starter? Because thats what it looks like youre saying and i know houre more knowledgeable than that



Stop putting words in my mouth. I never compared the two at all. Read my post and stop talking so damn much and maybe you will understand something other than your own bullshite.

You're obviously talking about young and inexperienced and I'm just talking about inexperienced. So we will leave it at that. What first year starters at LSU in the last ten years here at LSU have been successful? Maybe one or two? It happens in the SEC all the time.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 10:59 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 10:57 am to
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There have been a few so wtf are you even talking about? I


Really? The initial point was that yojng and inexperienced qbs playing well in the sec are outliers and asked a different poster to name some and YOU listed players that were all at least juniors as if that was what i asked for.
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It doesn't happen often because most of the time they are sitting behind an upperclassman.

And they are sitting because why? Maybe because they dont play as well as their OLDER AND MORE EXPERIENCED counter part?
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That does not mean they cannot step in and be a serviceable QB though.


It means yoing and inexperienced qbs playing well in the sec ARE OUTLIERS. which was my point before you listed 2 5th years seniors,a 4th year junior, and a another junior as if it was an answer to YOUNG and INEXPERIENCED qbs playing well in the sec.

Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:01 am to
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It means yoing and inexperienced qbs playing well in the sec ARE OUTLIERS



You realize outliers means that it happens right?? This isn't some mythical creature were talking about here. I think you're the outlier in this great philosophical offensive scheme supporting theme going on in this thread. It's just not true. You're stats are meaningless. Go watch a game Ricky
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 11:04 am
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:05 am to
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You somehow think posting data represents what someone actually watching the game with their eyeballs is seeing as the same. They are two completely different things. Same reason's playoff committee's use the eyeball test to project seeds in sports. What's on paper doesn't always tell the whole story. Do your stats show at what points in the game that these plays are ran? Downs etc?? Yds to go? Do they show what the score was at the time? Do they point out opponent differentials??




You never answered this Ricky
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:10 am to
Outlier is his way of deflecting the fact that he is wrong..... You haven't figured that out yet. He is hopeless you know. He acts like HE is the only one that knows football on this board. He doesn't even acknowledge NC's in college football because of how a team gets there. They are voted in so they don't count. So I guess in his mind THE GREAT Les Miles DIDNT win a NC in 2007.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:26 am to
" it happens"

Sure it happens.

Now, tell us how often true sophomore quarterback's with one year experience in the program have those type years.

Saying that stats are meaningless the most idiotic statement I have seen posted here and it's throw out on a fairly regular basis and usually when stats don't support a poster's opinion.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:29 am to
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You realize outliers means that it happens right?


Of course. Which i why I called the ones that do play well,"The outliers".
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You're stats are meaningless. Go watch a game Ricky


YeH im sure your football ignorant opinion should hold more weight than FACTS.

I clearly misjudged your football knowledge.

Only in your world are 2 5th year seniors, and rs junior, and a junior YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED.

And for the record, i menioned the nfl because what i was pointing out holds true at every level of football.

Young and inexperienced qbs playing better than their older and more seasoned counterparts are outliers. This true in junior high, highschool, college, and the nfl. There is a reason your senior qbs plays better than your freshman in high school. There is a reason your veteran nfl qb plays better than a rookie qb.
Its because youth and inexperience at the qb position isnt a plus.
This is fricking common knowledge.


2015 lsu finished above oho state, baman and fsu in offensive yards per game.
Deal with it. No one cares about your opinion that we sucked because FACTS prove we didnt .deal with it.

I tried to be cordial with you but its like talking to a 6 year old girl.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:31 am to
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Outlier is his way of deflecting the fact that he is wrong..


Im not wrong you idiot.

Young and inexperienced qbs playing in the sec are outliers.
List them since they arent outliers.
Name the young and inexperienced qbs that played well in the sec.
PROVE ME WRONG INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING I AM.
You cant. It'll just be another post proving your football ignorance.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:33 am to
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Saying that stats are meaningless the most idiotic statement I have seen posted here and it's throw out on a fairly regular basis and usually when stats don't support a poster's opinion.


Exactly. If there were stats showing how shitty our offense was in 2015 they would be posted every 10 minutes on here.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:37 am to
Answered what?


Also selection committees shouldn't use the eyeball test. Its subjective.
Whats on paper does tell the story. They just dont support your opinion so thsy are meaningless.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:39 am to
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Stop putting words in my mouth. I never compared the two at all. Read my post and stop talking so damn much and maybe you will understand something other than your own bullshite.



You said the class was irrelevant. Try to keep up
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:41 am to
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YeH im sure your football ignorant opinion should hold more weight than FACTS.


Well then go ahead and post your facts showing situational stats?? You think because somebody has more yds/game that means their offense was more efficient?? That's retarded.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:42 am to
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have said here numorous times that you know your shite.


You just said in this thread that all i know is stats
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I know a ton about football. You don't want to see that?


You dont know a the 1st thing about football. You didnt even know what an individual record is football. How do you know football if you dont even know that Matt Mauck's passing record in an individual record?
Youre one of the least knowledge people ive ever had any contact with.
Posted by deNYEd
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2007
9703 posts
Posted on 7/21/16 at 11:44 am to
I dream about the thought of running guice and williams the whole first half. Not a single carry for fournette. Then unleash fournette with fresh legs in second half after guice wore their asses out.
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