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re: How Many Games Did Chavis' Defense Win At LSU?
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:13 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:13 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Chavis was not all that good IMO LSU talent saved him a lot of times. Chavis defenses of last few years never got big sacks to create big plays against big opponents. You better be glad he gone
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:16 pm to AlaTiger
Look, we are a ball control, running team that eats up clock. If the defense can't get off the field and can't get stops at the end of games we lose. Chavis did great in some games where his defense mattered. SIX times in SIX years his defense came through and won the game without the offense doing a whole lot (scoring over 20).
TWELVE times, his defense crapped the bed in games where they only had to get a stop at the end.
He is a very good coach, but completely replaceable.
TWELVE times, his defense crapped the bed in games where they only had to get a stop at the end.
He is a very good coach, but completely replaceable.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:17 pm to AlaTiger
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If you are going to blame Miles for everything, why give a pass to the DC who rarely came through with a stop when it mattered?
Its a two way street. If the offense keeps the ball on the field longer then the D gets more rest.. Look at the three and outs the offense has had over the years that could have been game clinchers....
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:19 pm to AlaTiger
Did you not consider giving credit for:
Georgia 2009
Vandy 2010 (ok we never would have lost this game but offense was dreadful)
Alabama 2010
S Car 2012
On the opposite side defense was bad in Ole Miss 2010 and 2012 and State 2010 despite wins.
Edit: should also mention very near miss vs Texas A&M 2014.
Georgia 2009
Vandy 2010 (ok we never would have lost this game but offense was dreadful)
Alabama 2010
S Car 2012
On the opposite side defense was bad in Ole Miss 2010 and 2012 and State 2010 despite wins.
Edit: should also mention very near miss vs Texas A&M 2014.
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:21 pm to AlaTiger
quote:Every single win that season is a credit to Chavis.
2011
Beat Alabama 9-6. Chavis gets credit.
Lost to Alabama 21-0. Not Chavis' fault.
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:23 pm to mmcgrath
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Every single win that season is a credit to Chavis.
We averaged almost 40 ppg that year. The defense was great, but it was not winning all of our games for us.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:24 pm to AlaTiger
quote:
Look, we are a ball control, running team that eats up clock.
Correct... The more clock we eat the less the D is on the field...........
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:25 pm to LSUJuice
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Did you not consider giving credit for:
Georgia 2009
Vandy 2010 (ok we never would have lost this game but offense was dreadful)
Alabama 2010
S Car 2012
On the opposite side defense was bad in Ole Miss 2010 and 2012 and State 2010 despite wins.
Edit: should also mention very near miss vs Texas A&M 2014.
Edit: should also mention very near miss
Edit: should also mention very near
Okay, Georgia in 2009. I'll give you that. Offense scored 20 points, though.
SCAR 2012? No. They scored at the end to make it close. Same with A&M in 2014.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:26 pm to AlaTiger
I see your point and they're all valid...I just don't know why you bring this up now and not while he was still employed here?
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:37 pm to AlaTiger
He's gone. It's over. Move on.
Steele is our DC and that's all that matters.
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:41 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
What an analysis and who cares, he is not here now. We averaged 40 points that year. How many of those were set up by short fields or actually scored by the D and STs. Revisionists history at its finest.
Best of luck to Kevin Steele
Best of luck to Kevin Steele
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:44 pm to AlaTiger
When the HC has a philosophy to shorten games and win in the 4th quarter and your DC has a tendency to blow games in the waning seconds, something needs to change.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:48 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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I see your point and they're all valid...I just don't know why you bring this up now and not while he was still employed here?
Because I wasn't doing a retrospective on his time here. I kept hoping we would just win games. I didn't care how we did it.
The CW since he left is that Chavis won all of LSU's games for us.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:51 pm to KG5989
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Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:53 pm to LSUSoulja08
I agree. It comes across as butthurt and insecure to try and convince us that Chavis wasn't as good as we thought he was. Fact is, he went on to what he thinks are greener pastures and for more money. Can't blame a guy for that. We're all good with Steele and O. Let's just take the high road and kick his arse on the field next time we meet. That'll be all of the analysis needed.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 6:54 pm to AlaTiger
As far as I'm concerned he's texas a&ms problem now. Don't worry it won't take them long to figure out 3rd and Chavis.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:03 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Is this the new position we're taking? That LSU's problems have been with the defense?
My position is while chavis has def been the best DC under miles, I don't think he deserves all the credit, like some fans want to give him. If he gets credit, he should shoulder the blame. I actually give all the credit and blame to the head coach. He has the final say in the players they recruit and the coaches they hire.
People say chavis saved Miles job. well he hired the guy, so miles saved his own job by hiring a good DC.
This post was edited on 5/15/15 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:06 pm to dgnx6
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. I actually give all the credit and blame to the head coach. He has the final say in the players they recruit and the coaches they hire.
HELLO...........LOGIC CITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:08 pm to mmcgrath
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Every single win that season is a credit to Chavis.
See this is what I'm talking about. Forget about the head coach that offers the scholarships and hires the coaches. He had nothing to do with it.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 7:27 pm to AlaTiger
2009:
State - Goalline Stand to preserve the win
Georgia - 40 yard KO ret by Trindon + 33 yard TD by Scott in 1:09 after D surrenders go-ahead TD
Ole Miss - Down by one score in 4Q, D surrenders an 8 MINUTE scoring drive
Arkansas - with 1:18 remaining, 41 yard FG for OT after D surrenders go-ahead TD
2010:
N Carolina - up 30-10 to start 4Q, D preserves the win at the goal line for the W
W Virginia -
Tennessee -
Florida - 62 yard scoring drive in 3:15 after D surrenders go-ahead TD (+2pt)
Ole Miss - 51 yard scoring drive in 4:13 after D surrenders go-ahead TD
2011:
Alabama Pt. 1 -
Alabama Pt. 2 - :bow: :bow: :bow:
2012:
Auburn - :bow:
Alabama - with 1:34 remaining, surrenders go-ahead TD
Ole Miss - :bow:
Arkansas - with 1:26 remaining, down one score, Ark drives 60 yards before falling short
Clemson - with 1:39 remaining, surrenders GW FG
2013:
Georgia - with 4:14 remaining, surrenders go-ahead TD
Ole Miss - with 3:19 remaining, surrenders GW FG
Arkansas - :bow:
2014:
Wisconsin - :bow:
Florida - converted DE drops TD pass, UF kicks FG for OT
Ole Miss - with 1:19 remaining, Ole Miss drives 45 yards before Bad Bo
Alabama - with 0:50 remaining, Alabama drives 55 yards for FG to OT
aTm - with 2:07 remaining, aTm drives to midfield before "offsides" no call
ND - with 5:41 remaining, ND kicks GW FG as time expires
State - Goalline Stand to preserve the win
Georgia - 40 yard KO ret by Trindon + 33 yard TD by Scott in 1:09 after D surrenders go-ahead TD
Ole Miss - Down by one score in 4Q, D surrenders an 8 MINUTE scoring drive
Arkansas - with 1:18 remaining, 41 yard FG for OT after D surrenders go-ahead TD
2010:
N Carolina - up 30-10 to start 4Q, D preserves the win at the goal line for the W
W Virginia -
Tennessee -
Florida - 62 yard scoring drive in 3:15 after D surrenders go-ahead TD (+2pt)
Ole Miss - 51 yard scoring drive in 4:13 after D surrenders go-ahead TD
2011:
Alabama Pt. 1 -
Alabama Pt. 2 - :bow: :bow: :bow:
2012:
Auburn - :bow:
Alabama - with 1:34 remaining, surrenders go-ahead TD
Ole Miss - :bow:
Arkansas - with 1:26 remaining, down one score, Ark drives 60 yards before falling short
Clemson - with 1:39 remaining, surrenders GW FG
2013:
Georgia - with 4:14 remaining, surrenders go-ahead TD
Ole Miss - with 3:19 remaining, surrenders GW FG
Arkansas - :bow:
2014:
Wisconsin - :bow:
Florida - converted DE drops TD pass, UF kicks FG for OT
Ole Miss - with 1:19 remaining, Ole Miss drives 45 yards before Bad Bo
Alabama - with 0:50 remaining, Alabama drives 55 yards for FG to OT
aTm - with 2:07 remaining, aTm drives to midfield before "offsides" no call
ND - with 5:41 remaining, ND kicks GW FG as time expires
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