re: How Do You Explain Crowton's Demise?

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Why does everyone assume that RP would have behaved had he stayed at LSU? He was still getting in trouble as recently as this season with his suspension at Jacksonville State during the first game. How do we know that he wouldn't still be getting in bar fights, getting involved with counterfeit money, etc.?

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Obviously the statement that RP would have significantly enhanced the LSU offense is based on the assumption that he actually played every game. In other words, stayed relatively trouble-free as he has in Alabama and injury-free. So there. Had he stayed, become the good scout, and played up to his capabilities for two years, LSU would likely have won at least four and possibly five of the games that they have lost. He's that good. Crowton and Miles' inability to taylor a successful game plan for younger, less competant qb's has led to these types of threads and feelings of frustration.

How do you explain USC's demise?

Brad Budde: Matt Barkley’s First Adversity
USC’s Brade Budde thinks USC needs to find a way to build Matt Barkley’s confidence after a blowout loss to Stanford.

Unfortunately, I wasn’t surprised with last week’s result. When you look at USC recently, we’re struggling with confidence.
Confidence is a byproduct of successful behavior. Here, you have a quarterback who was borne into confidence at the high school level. So of course he’s going to be confident because he’s never experienced on-field adversity. But now he is. Your emotion isn’t going to save you in this instance, especially for Matt Barkley. It’s your problem-solving capabilities.

If you’re asking me what should be the focus, it’s that they need to get this young quarterback to be able to problem solve. Last week, he had three picks and a fumble. When things are difficult and it seems to be getting worse, you have to simplify things and go back to the fundamentals. As he becomes successful, then you can add more to his plate. But this is too much.

They just haven’t established an offensive identity with Barkley at the helm. They don’t seem to be emphasizing the running capabilities of this team, so Barkley is going to be directly tied to the success of this team.

Something is wrong. And something needs to change. But problem solving starts with Barkley and continues throughout this team, and that needs to be changed..

College Football Hall of Famer and 1979 Lombardi Award winner, Brad Budde is currently a business performance coach for Game Day Communications in Southern California, which he owns and operates.

Petey Carroll is having a rough stretch when he lost his highly talented QB without another highly talented QB to take his place.

With Corp. and Mustain on the bench, he goes with a true freshman--wonder why.

No offense runs without effective Oline blocking. Fix the oline and Crowton will start looking like a genius and JJ like Peyton Manning.

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RP, has nothing to do with Crowton's demise;

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So having an inexperienced, basically red shirt qb two years in a row has nothing to do with an OC's success?

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How do you explain USC's demise?

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Excellent comparison Bad Cat. I certainly wasn't shocked by what happened to the Men of Troy this season. When PC publicly whined about MS leaving early(something Miles nor Saban have ever done that I recall) it was due to his vision of what was likely to happen this season. And he was right. 'SC was outplayed in the OSU game(remember the touchdown run stopped at the one foot line)and three subsequent times. It would be hard to find anyone to say they were not the most talented team in every game they played, yet they've suffered 3 defeats and been outplayed in at least 4 games. Yet we all believe PC to be a good coach. Losing both coordinators and a QB leaving early were just too much to overcome in what is one of the top 3 conferences in America. Against LSU's schedule he would likely have suffered pretty much the same record IMO. Yet PC is revered by most as a coaching genius. Think about it. LM & PC could probably have swapped teams this year and likely the results would be much the same. Yet many make fun of Les and praise PC. So let's calm down a bit people. There are piles of worse coaches and less talented teams out there. It's time for real Tiger fans to be the voices of reason. Again, good job Bad Cat.

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I think that we can now say that the offensive schemes worked in 2007 only because Crowton didn't have enough time to do everything he wanted to do. He was only able to add in a few wrinkles, and it made the offense much better. Give him time to install his whole plan, and the offense will be a disorganized mess, no matter who the players are.

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I think that is a ridiculous conclusion.

My belief is that the problems stem from 2 main sources.

1. The OL in well below average. The group is not proficient in the running game (getting a push) or the passing game (protecting the QB).

2. We have an inexperienced QB who has thus far been unable to consistently make enough plays on his own given the lack of running game and constant pressure (see # 1).

In 2007, we ran the ball for 212 yards per game...in the SEC. At any point, we could control down and distance and dictate to the defense exactly what we wanted to do. We don't have that luxury now.

This year, we are averaging 136 yards per game and are 99th in sacks allowed. We have been completely knocked off of our gameplan multiple times this year because we haven't been able to do anything with the running game or downfield in the passing game. We have been relegated to a short passing game and there is only so much success you are going to have with that.

Crowton's fate will be tied to whether or not the OLine problems can be solved. If they are solved, his offense will begin to click again.

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I usually agree with you on most topics, but you are ignoring Crowton's history. Certainly LSU would be much improved with a talented senior QB and an overpowering offensive line. We don't have that, in fact most teams do not.

We've run the ball quite well at times, then inexplicably stopped doing it. Why? To teach sometype of lesson? Because we thought we might start getting stuffed? It's ridiculous.

Predictability. It seems when he is gong to run, he is in a run formation, Pass the same thing. He doesn't pass from apparent running formations, and run from apparent passing formations. At least That is what I am picking up.

JJ is too slow in his pass mechanics. The CBs can see the swing passes coming, and they rarely go for anything. I keep wondering why we are constantly caught for no gain or little gain on those plays, while we get the crap knocked out of us for the same thing.

Multiple telegraphing like this going on, too many to mention. Wonder why teams like La Tech, and ULaLa had such defenses against us? Think they are just smart? No, we are just too predictable.

It seems that by trying to be unpredictable, Crowton becomes too predictable. If we run a play that works too many times, we need to stop before the other team figures out so we go back to our bread and butter, the option.