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re: How close was billy cannon To having 2 heismans?
Posted on 7/21/11 at 2:26 am to SuperPredator
Posted on 7/21/11 at 2:26 am to SuperPredator
quote:I thought he should have won it again. Jerry Stovall was screwed out of it in 1962.
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SuperPredator
How close was billy cannon
To having 2 heismans? I was looking at tue heisman winners and runner ups and he was second the year before he won!
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Posted on 7/21/11 at 2:41 am to The Boat
quote:. Dont see why he didn't... Though I don't know anything about football outside of LSU anywhere near that time.
How many people think Cannon won the Heisman the year LSU won the national title?
Posted on 7/21/11 at 3:11 am to SuperPredator
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I answered my question. I know that I was just telling you that he was very close
Yeah, I was just being a dick. Sometimes I'm just that way. Sorry.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 6:18 am to The Boat
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How many people think Cannon won the Heisman the year LSU won the national title?
Or that the Halloween Run was the same year as the championship....
Posted on 7/21/11 at 8:48 am to skinny domino
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Jerry Stovall was screwed out of it in 1962.
Got that right. Jerry was just too close to Billy winning it. Like Billy, Jerry EXCELLED at multiple phases of the game.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 12:08 pm to Good Times
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Got that right. Jerry was just too close to Billy winning it. Like Billy, Jerry EXCELLED at multiple phases of the game.
I agree that Jerry was probably deserving of the award, but Cannon's win could have had little to do with it.
The first 27 Heisman winners ('35 through '61) - were from 18 different schools. By the time Baker got a 89 point win over Stovall, there had been back-to-back wins by Yale in the 30s, Army in the 40s, as well as Notre Dame players winning 5 out of the 14 trophies given from '43 through '56.
More likely is Baker was the first player from the west coast. There were 2 candidates from Wisconsin and the top vote getter for the Big 10 was OL Bob Bell from Minnesota. There were no California players, but there were two other candidates from the south, Lee Roy Jordan from Bama and Billy Lothridge from Ga Tech.
Stovall didn't win because Jordan split the SEC vote, somewhat, and only 1 player was from the west coast. With no candidate from Syracuse or Boston College, the New York and New England vote was split, but slanted against the south and towards the midwest and west.
It's as simple as that.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 12:12 pm to Ace Midnight
That seems like a good answer Ace.
People forget that CFB then wasn't like today. Things were much more regional. You had games on the radio and recaps in the paper, and the rare televised game. There wasn't much chance for West coast sports writers to catch a glimpse of the southern players. Thus, people voted for who they knew.
People forget that CFB then wasn't like today. Things were much more regional. You had games on the radio and recaps in the paper, and the rare televised game. There wasn't much chance for West coast sports writers to catch a glimpse of the southern players. Thus, people voted for who they knew.
This post was edited on 7/21/11 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 7/21/11 at 12:17 pm to Geaux Tahel
quote:IMO, he shouldn't have won one.
Any theories from a Buckeye fan as to why he won 2?
Posted on 7/21/11 at 12:32 pm to NC_Tigah
They did not often award the Hiseman to under classmen
Posted on 7/21/11 at 12:35 pm to lpotterusa
damn, there could have been one at each TJ Ribs 
Posted on 7/21/11 at 1:03 pm to Ace Midnight
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Stovall didn't win because Jordan split the SEC vote, somewhat, and only 1 player was from the west coast. With no candidate from Syracuse or Boston College, the New York and New England vote was split, but slanted against the south and towards the midwest and west.
It's as simple as that.
Yep. He was the best player in college football that year.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 1:36 pm to SammyTiger
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Not only would it help differentiate between two players after they play top notch competition in bowl games, but it would also eliminate the prebowl game distraction of post season trophies.
I kind of agree, but if this was the process, we wouldn't have had the opportunity of smearing the Superdome turf with the 2003 winner! :)
That is one of my fondest memories of the 2003 season. :)
Posted on 7/21/11 at 1:43 pm to smillerlsu
On a side note (and CSB), I just got my Florida license plate: ASK Y59
Posted on 7/21/11 at 1:54 pm to TexasTiger08
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Herschel Walker was a top finisher for 3 years...only won once, but still.
If anybody deserved to win 3, it was this guy. If he had come back for his senior year, he'd have been a shoo-in for a second one.
Posted on 7/21/11 at 3:37 pm to skinny domino
Billy was 3rd, not 2nd, in 1958 behind Randy Duncan. He was 400pts behind the winner Pete Dawkins.
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