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Posted on 6/22/12 at 6:00 pm to harry coleman beast
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I think using the current formula and taking the top 4 ranked teams is the best option.
+1, But with the exception that I would free up some of the restrictions on the computers. No need to go to more than 4 teams. Just cheapens the regular season.
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 6/22/12 at 6:03 pm to ZoTiger6
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4 Conf. Champions - selected by the committee.
penalizes teams for being in a tough conference like the SEC. Much easier to be champion of the Big 10, Big 12, and Pac 10 than to be the champion of the SEC.
Posted on 6/22/12 at 6:49 pm to boxcar willie
Doesn't penalize SEC teams...for example in last seasons case Ala. would have certainly got an at-large bid. The SEC would prolly take one of the at-large seeds every year, along with the SEC Champ. And just because you are a conf. champ doesn't automatically get you in. It would be the top 4 conf. champs based on strength of schedule and overall strength of the conferance. So if the Big East or ACC have a 2-3 loss champ, they would not be garaunteed of getting in. Also if in some cases an undefeated SEC team loses in the SECCG to, lets say a 2-3 team from the other division, that team could and prolly would still get in as an at-large.
This post was edited on 6/22/12 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 6/22/12 at 6:53 pm to hondapa26
And for the argument of the 2 at-large teams, as they say, it is better to argue about the 5th and 6th teams getting in, than the 2nd like last year.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 12:40 am to loweralabamatrojan
there isnt too many years where we pretty much could say the system thats been in place had the top four teams right. there would be debate on whether someone who was ranked 3rd or 4th should be playing instead of the #2 team.. not too many times the 5th ranked team should be in the top two. maybe this will help that issue( 4 team p/o). IMO teams should be rewarded for putting it all on the line early by scheduling quality non-conf teams and winning. there should be more of that. ex: bama/mich.. lsu/oregon..
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 12:41 am
Posted on 6/23/12 at 1:56 am to bayoubengalfan4life
quote:Absolutely. Those type of OOC matchups should be rewarded much more than playing lower division opponents. Ought to be something in the mix to give those games more weight than the "rent a wins".
IMO teams should be rewarded for putting it all on the line early by scheduling quality non-conf teams and winning. there should be more of that. ex: bama/mich.. lsu/oregon..
Posted on 6/23/12 at 2:24 am to ZoTiger6
Posted on 6/23/12 at 2:45 am to ZoTiger6
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Posted on 6/23/12 at 3:24 am to The Baker
Top seeded conference champs in each bracket get a bye?
Posted on 6/23/12 at 6:22 am to loweralabamatrojan
Wow Haydel, think about it... 
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 6:39 am
Posted on 6/23/12 at 6:37 am to ZoTiger6
And one thing I didn't put in my original post is that an at-large seed can be no higher than a #3 seed as to not reward them with a bye the 1st week. And of course, as is the case now, only 2 teams from one given conf.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 8:36 am to ZoTiger6
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Doesn't penalize SEC teams...for example in last seasons case Ala. would have certainly got an at-large bid. The SEC would prolly take one of the at-large seeds every year, along with the SEC Champ.
No, man--the whole reason this 4 team system is being instituted is to exclude any team in Alabama's situation last year from getting into the playoff. Notice the timing of it. Had Okla St played LSU the BCS would have been left unchanged. If a 2nd SEC team gets in other than SEC champ, it will not be a team that played the SEC champ during regular season.
Putting strong emphasis on conference champs places the regular season games in a position of prime importance. The 5th November game in Tuscaloosa would have been for all the marbles. Also, out of conference games will become extremely important in order to get a playoff spot in case of not winning conference title--ie., more LSU-Oregon games and fewer LSU-UL Monroe games.
I don't think we'll ever see 6 teams in a playoff; the university presidents will not agree to playing more games than they do now. This isn't the NFL--these are students. By the way, if you want an interesting read, full of fury and gnashing of teeth, go to this discussion on the Alabama board. They're correctly getting a sense the new system is a disapproval of the way they won the title. So, maybe our November game T-shirt should say, "Yeah, they're good--if you give 'em two chances."
This post was edited on 6/23/12 at 8:41 am
Posted on 6/23/12 at 9:32 am to loweralabamatrojan
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something tells me that future playoffs will involve only the powers of 2 (i.e. 4, 8, 16) with respect to the number of participants.
Dammit there goes my 5 team playoff idea I've been working on all year!
Posted on 6/23/12 at 11:21 am to ZoTiger6
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How about a 6 team playoff ?
This was pitched by Herbstreit last year as the best option, adding the Cotton Bowl to the BCS rotation. It didn't get any traction, probably because it actually makes sense.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 12:03 pm to oilattorney4lsu
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Dammit there goes my 5 team playoff idea I've been working on all year!
That would totally work. The five teams would be Alabama and the top 4 non-Bama teams. The other 4 teams would play two games for the right to play Bama in the Championship Game.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 6:33 pm to ZoTiger6
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Posted on 6/23/12 at 8:16 pm to The Baker
You do a 6-team playoff the same way the NFL do their Conference playoffs: Top 2 get a bye in the first round with 6 playing 3 and 5 playing 4. The top seeded survivor plays 2 and the lower seeded survivor plays 1, then the winners of those semifinals meet in the National Championship game.
I just think there needs to be somewhere from 8-16 to make sure that all undefeated teams and 1 loss teams, and perhaps a few 2 loss teams have a shot.
I just think there needs to be somewhere from 8-16 to make sure that all undefeated teams and 1 loss teams, and perhaps a few 2 loss teams have a shot.
Posted on 6/23/12 at 8:39 pm to LSUfanaddict
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Posted on 6/24/12 at 12:46 am to The Baker
Not to hijack, but here’s a potential situation!!!!
Let’s say you get a 6 team playoff system. And going into conf. Champ week you have:
Rankings:
1. SEC West Div. Champ
2. PAC12 Div. Champ
3. Big XII Champ.
4. ACC Div. Champ
5. PAC12 Div. Champ
6. Big 10 Div. Champ
7. SEC West #2
8. Mid-Major Conf. Champ
9. Big XII #2
10. Big 10 Div. Champ
11. SEC East Div. Champ
12. Some Team
13. Some Team
14. Too Lazy
15. Almost there
16. A few more
17. Spots to be
18. More accurate
19. Highest possible rank for Big East Champion
20. ACC Div. Champ (these guys matter)
Ok so let’s say that the top ranked conf champs all win their conf championship games except for the ACC team at #4, and the Big 10 champ at #6. In this situation the PAC12 Div Champ at #4 would lose also.
CONTROVERSY!!!
Cause then:
1. SEC West Div. Champ (Conf Champ)
2. PAC12 Div. Champ (Conf Champ)
3. Big XII Champ. (Conf Champ)
4. SEC West #2
5. Big 10 Div. Champ (Conf Champ)
6. PAC12 Div. Champ
7. Big 10 Div. Champ
8. ACC Div. Champ
9. Mid-Major Conf. Champ
10. Big XII #2
11. SEC East Div. Champ
12. Some Team
13. Some Team
14. Too Lazy
15. Almost there
16. A few more
17. Spots to be
18. More accurate
19. Highest possible rank for Big East Champion (Conf Champ, like it matters though)
20. ACC Div. Champ (they move up but I don’t wanna guess how high or move them.) (Conf Champ)
Or something similar. It’s fairly inaccurate to be honest but if you understand where I’m going, what case do teams like the ones in bold have for making that 5th or even the 6th spot in a 6 team playoff???
I apologize in advance if this is too long for some's tastes.
Let’s say you get a 6 team playoff system. And going into conf. Champ week you have:
Rankings:
1. SEC West Div. Champ
2. PAC12 Div. Champ
3. Big XII Champ.
4. ACC Div. Champ
5. PAC12 Div. Champ
6. Big 10 Div. Champ
7. SEC West #2
8. Mid-Major Conf. Champ
9. Big XII #2
10. Big 10 Div. Champ
11. SEC East Div. Champ
12. Some Team
13. Some Team
14. Too Lazy
15. Almost there
16. A few more
17. Spots to be
18. More accurate
19. Highest possible rank for Big East Champion
20. ACC Div. Champ (these guys matter)
Ok so let’s say that the top ranked conf champs all win their conf championship games except for the ACC team at #4, and the Big 10 champ at #6. In this situation the PAC12 Div Champ at #4 would lose also.
CONTROVERSY!!!
Cause then:
1. SEC West Div. Champ (Conf Champ)
2. PAC12 Div. Champ (Conf Champ)
3. Big XII Champ. (Conf Champ)
4. SEC West #2
5. Big 10 Div. Champ (Conf Champ)
6. PAC12 Div. Champ
7. Big 10 Div. Champ
8. ACC Div. Champ
9. Mid-Major Conf. Champ
10. Big XII #2
11. SEC East Div. Champ
12. Some Team
13. Some Team
14. Too Lazy
15. Almost there
16. A few more
17. Spots to be
18. More accurate
19. Highest possible rank for Big East Champion (Conf Champ, like it matters though)
20. ACC Div. Champ (they move up but I don’t wanna guess how high or move them.) (Conf Champ)
Or something similar. It’s fairly inaccurate to be honest but if you understand where I’m going, what case do teams like the ones in bold have for making that 5th or even the 6th spot in a 6 team playoff???
I apologize in advance if this is too long for some's tastes.
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