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re: Hoping like hell schools do not allow sponser-logos on game jerseys.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:47 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:47 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:Unfortunately that isn't financially viable from a sponsor perspective. There's no real commercial value in sponsoring most college sports.
Every team in every college sport should have multiple logos/sponsors in their jerseys.
This post was edited on 7/8/21 at 9:54 pm
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Posted on 7/8/21 at 8:56 pm to tigerfan92
quote:
its coming don't worry.College football will never be the same with all as of this NIL crap going on.
I feel sorry for the players. 99% of all pro athletes will tell you that their college years (before pay) were the best years of their lives.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:13 pm to tbabino
I look forward to seeing the NILs of out baseball players wallpapering the outfield wall of the Box, and commercials featuring our football players on the video boards after they score touchdowns. 
Posted on 7/8/21 at 9:52 pm to Kingpenm3
quote:Link? That seems like a completely made-up statistic.
99% of all pro athletes will tell you that their college years (before pay) were the best years of their lives.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 10:29 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
LSU always could put sponsor logos on their jerseys like pro soccer or the NBA, they choose not to. People keep bringing up examples of TEAMS agreeing to put sponsors on their uniforms.
No, they can't
Other than the player’s number, the jersey may only contain:
Player’s name;
School name;
Mascot name;
NCAA logo;
Sleeve stripes;
Logo for school, conference, mascot, postseason-game, memorial, the military;
Graduate or academic recognition as part of an institutional or conference logo;
The letter “C” to identify a team captain;
American flag;
State flag.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 10:33 pm to geauxtigers33
quote:
It would be up to the school to decide to put a logo on the uniform and then take bids from companies then decide. It doesn’t matter if they pay each individual player as the uniform is a licensed entity of the university not the players so the university has final say on what is on it.
No, the NCAA has the final say.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 10:43 pm to 62zip
quote:How so?
No, the NCAA has the final say.
Posted on 7/8/21 at 10:45 pm to 62zip
quote:How do you explain the Swoosh?
No, they can't
Other than the player’s number, the jersey may only contain:
Player’s name;
School name;
Mascot name;
NCAA logo;
Sleeve stripes;
Logo for school, conference, mascot, postseason-game, memorial, the military;
Graduate or academic recognition as part of an institutional or conference logo;
The letter “C” to identify a team captain;
American flag;
State flag.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 6:03 am
Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:55 am to SammyTiger
“Let me rephrase that, which company do you THINK Curry left?”
You truly never have any idea wtf you’re talking about. Curry switched from Nike to Under Armor around 2013. Lol, ignorant jackass.
You truly never have any idea wtf you’re talking about. Curry switched from Nike to Under Armor around 2013. Lol, ignorant jackass.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 4:27 am
Posted on 7/9/21 at 4:45 am to Madking
I really do not think yall know what NIL is or have even looked into it. The PLAYER can only profit from his name/image/likeness, the TEAM has totally different sponsors and jerseys are controlled by the school and NCAA. Its not like Stingley can slap a WalkOns insignia on his uniform or helmet. Because all uniforms have to be the same. If they are sponsoring the player why would everyone have that? Also have you seen LSU ever throw sponsors all over their uniforms? Because they have always had sponsors and you dont see them on the uniforms. I think some of you all are just bitching and complaining about stuff to do it. If they want to make money so be it. Pay them, cuts down on alot of the illegal under the table shite that has always happened. This is what it is now and probably should have been a long time ago. You will just see more commercials and stuff now with college players, its alot cheaper than paying a professional athlete. And another plus we might get college video games again lmao.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:18 am to lsu2006
quote:
Lol. A school putting a sponsor on its jerseys has literally nothing to do with individual players being able to profit from their name, image or likeness.
You don't know how sponsorship works? If a business sponsors a player, the player wears the sponsor's name on his helmet or jersey. The business gets their name advertised, and the player gets a cut of whatever revenue percentage agreed upon. It won't just be team sponsorships anymore. Individuals can make deals.
Now, not every player is marketable. But a guy like Stingley sure as heck is. So will we see this one day? Not a doubt in my mind.
Some people are so hopelessly naive about so many things. "Give me a plus one, that's all I ask". And the rest of us say that will never satisfy everyone, and we get told we don't know what we're talking about. Now people are talking about a 12 team playoff, completely skipping over an 8 team field idea.
Then it was "pay the players!". We warn about a slippery slope, and people actually think that this will only allow athletes to make money off of little things like autographs and jerseys with their names on it... Nope. This opens the door for certain athletes to make all sorts of deals, and it will lead to a total dismantling of the college game. Some checks and balances HAVE to be added to this, or we're going to see the power 5 schools playing just each other, which will get really boring.
If everyone thinks this is "fair", then they have to accept the consequences of what it brings. You can't sit there with your head in the sand and trying to convince everyone else that it won't change anything.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 6:20 am
Posted on 7/9/21 at 6:32 am to AnthonyWC70788
quote:
I really do not think yall know what NIL is or have even looked into it. The PLAYER can only profit from his name/image/likeness, the TEAM has totally different sponsors and jerseys are controlled by the school and NCAA. Its not like Stingley can slap a WalkOns insignia on his uniform or helmet. Because all uniforms have to be the same. If they are sponsoring the player why would everyone have that? Also have you seen LSU ever throw sponsors all over their uniforms? Because they have always had sponsors and you dont see them on the uniforms. I think some of you all are just bitching and complaining about stuff to do it. If they want to make money so be it. Pay them, cuts down on alot of the illegal under the table shite that has always happened. This is what it is now and probably should have been a long time ago. You will just see more commercials and stuff now with college players, its alot cheaper than paying a professional athlete. And another plus we might get college video games again lmao.
Everything you are saying is PRE-NIL. Before, you only had team sponsorships, because that's all that was allowed. And even if they, for some reason, rule that the players can't have their own sponsors on the jerseys, that doesn't stop them from striking endorsement deals. I don't know why people keep saying "it's just name, likeness and image", as if they don't realize what all that encompasses. Anyone who wants to pay you to do a commercial with you, or put your name on anything, can pay you under name, likeness and image. The scope is virtually limitless for those athletes who are marketable.
Yes, the fact that it's legal means that there won't be a need for under the table stuff anymore. But that will only intensify the bidding war, which will eliminate a ton of schools from contention. I know it's easy to sit back and say "well, that's life". But the problem is this isn't regular life, it's college athletics. College athletics were created for fun, and to help schools across the country generate revenue to grow and support themselves. And in that system, there was always going to be the "have's" and "have nots", but there was at least a fighting chance. This current model is going to turn college into a semi-pro league, consisting of the biggest moneymakers in the power 5 conferences.
Ad that's just the way it is. It's the minor leagues, now. You won't be able to call this amateur sports for much longer.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 6:35 am
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:52 am to tbabino
More ads at the stadiums with players names flashing in neon lights.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:53 am to Metaloctopus
quote:
there won't be a need for under the table stuff anymore.
You are serious aren't you.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:21 am to SammyTiger
quote:what is you talking about
You never see personal advertisements on uniforms in any pro league.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:36 am to themunch
quote:
there won't be a need for under the table stuff anymore.
You are serious aren't you.
Did you actually read my entire post, or is that all you saw and decided to respond to that?
I think NIL is bad for college athletics, as it currently stands (without some kind of tweaking to preempt massive bidding wars that crush most of the college landscape).
And as it currently stands, no, there is no need for under the table payments. The boosters will get with their connections and make deals happen as they see fit, when there is a need for that "little" extra to get kids to sign. These things have been going on with boosters for decades in the form cash payouts straight from the benefactors. Now, they can just use their friends businesses, are their own businesses, if they have them, and do sponsorships at will.
With the under the table money, you couldn't just pay everyone, or it would be even more obvious than it already was. Now, it's open season.
The athletes that aren't really marketable are not the one's you need to worry about, anyway, because those guys are going to have to settle for whatever spot is even open for them, when the dust settles on all of the top tier recruits, if they don't want to end up on a crappy team somewhere.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 8:38 am
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:37 am to extremelsu
I think a lot of people are confused between a corporate team sponsorship and an individual sponsorship…
The only “sponsorship” stuff players where in the pros is their gloves, bats, cleats, and maybe glasses. In regards to that, LSU would nix any deal before it was started because, by law, they can prevent players from having conflicting sponsorships with the university.
Having a zatarans or wish or bumble patch on a players jersey is a corporate, team sponsorship. Not a personal brand deal.
The only “sponsorship” stuff players where in the pros is their gloves, bats, cleats, and maybe glasses. In regards to that, LSU would nix any deal before it was started because, by law, they can prevent players from having conflicting sponsorships with the university.
Having a zatarans or wish or bumble patch on a players jersey is a corporate, team sponsorship. Not a personal brand deal.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:18 am to Madking
His Nike contract was up in 2013 and unlike what you said, Nike did not have a signature shoe.
Again, these agreements are all contracts. Unless Nike has a clause saying they can control every aspect of a players career they can’t just drop an endorsement if a player doesn’t transfer schools on demand. Not without being in breach
quote:
Your argument here is that these companies have total control of the players which is exactly what I said lol.
Again, these agreements are all contracts. Unless Nike has a clause saying they can control every aspect of a players career they can’t just drop an endorsement if a player doesn’t transfer schools on demand. Not without being in breach
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 11:51 am
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:21 am to extremelsu
quote:
what is you talking about
You never see a player advertise HIS endorsement on a uniform
You see team sponsors in some sports, but not personal sponsors.
Posted on 7/9/21 at 10:23 am to SammyTiger
quote:
LSU has team advertisement and doesn’t put them on the uniform (besides Nike) also there is nothing that I know of Stopping schools from doing this if they wanted to.
Lot of their contracts do. LSU is not allowed to show any other logos other than Nike from their contract with Nike. That’s a big part of the reason LSU has the tigers bumpers decals for the helmets. To block out Schutt, Ridell, etc.
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